If Lomachenko loses.

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #41
    If he loses in a competitive fight he is still a high caliber fighter.

    Only here when a fighter loses they get labeled as a bum, exposed, was never good in the first place, was carefully matched, etc.

    Most good fighters eventually loose when they go up in weight and face top fighters

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    • blowblow
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      #42
      this thread will get abandoned when the decision resulted to a draw.. lol.. keep fighting guys..

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #43
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
        If he loses in a competitive fight he is still a high caliber fighter.

        Only here when a fighter loses they get labeled as a bum, exposed, was never good in the first place, was carefully matched, etc.

        Most good fighters eventually loose when they go up in weight and face top fighters
        Good point. All of this and more will be said when Loma loses.

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        • edgarg
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          #44
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          Sugar Ray Robinson had 19 losses.

          You evidently DKSAB.

          Another troll for the ignore list...
          I totally agree with you about the "troll" comment.

          Robinson was 40 in 1961 when he had his 8th loss in about 150 fights, -against Fullmer. This was his last title shot. The fight before that was a split draw ,also against Fullmer. Most of the ringside reporters and boxing observers scored it 11-4 for Robinson. He'd already lost 2 splits to Paul Pender in Pender's home town, "dicey" decisions. The corrupt "powers that be" wanted Robinson out of the Championship picture, he caused them massive amounts of trouble, being VERY difficult to deal with. They decided this, after his return fight with Basilio was nearly cancelled at the last moment a week before the fight after a huge publicity campaign for the fight... He reneged on the agreed money, demanded -and got- $500,000. Basilio stormed out of the meeting, cursing like a trooper that he would NEVER fight Robinson again. But he did...and lost. But Robinson was still a big draw.

          Yes Robinson had 19 losses, and I know you mention them only to show that a fighter can have losses and still be a great, in Robinson's case the greatest of all time.

          The guy only lost his second fight (his 133rd fight) after a straight run of over 90 wins, 200, with 108 KOs.

          As we all know, (except some who don't know much about boxing) the majority of those losses came when he was well past the used up age for fighters in those days.

          Lomachenko's loss to Salido was caused by the 18 or 20 low blows that Salido was not DQd for., a dozen times over. Not to mention his butting, holding and hitting, and more. Several reputable reports showed that Salido weighed 147 before the fight.
          Laurence Cole the "referee"... got far more condemnations from Boxing authorities that I have ever seen or heard before. About 20 times more than the infamous judge C.J. Ross.
          Last edited by edgarg; 10-11-2020, 09:31 PM. Reason: 2 typos

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          • CauliflowerEars
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            #45
            I love coming back to these threads after the fight. Guaranteed 90% of the posters will be nowhere to be found. Most of them just pop in before these types of fights and try to get guys riled up.
            A week from today I'll be back...

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            • Divine Hammer
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              #46
              he won't lose. its impossible.

              realistic scenario: lomachenko dominates and everyone starts calling teofimo lopez an overrated bum and the win means nothing.

              lomachenko will prove he is the true p4p#1. no rigged scorecards needed. no fighting old retirees. no cowardice. pure skill and pure heart of a champ. truth.

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              • edgarg
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                #47
                Most of the publicity about Lomachenko centres around having won 3 different weight division titles in the fewest fights in history. But he also won the first 2 weight classes in the fewest fights in history. Nobody ever mentions that.

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                • daggum
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                  Good point. All of this and more will be said when Loma loses.
                  not really. if loma loses he lost to the better fighter and he still had a great career which still isnt over. if tank loses to a bum like santa cruz then we can all laugh cause thats a cherry pick gone wrong. when you dont fight a top 10 guy for 4 years you know something is going on! protection mode in full force! operation protect the midget so we can suck as much money out of the idiots as possible in effect!

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    I don't think so. Fans and haters will just forget about him. Where would he go from there? That's why I say this is a must win for both fighters, more so for Loma. If Lopez loses, most will say he was a hybejob, too.
                    - -99.9% of Americans would rather watch two boards glued together than boxing.

                    U a Heebiejob too?

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                    • richardt
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                      #50
                      If either guy loses, it will be the same as it has been for every big fight here on Boxing scene. It will depend on who is hated more as to which fighter will get credit given and credit taken. Nothing will change. The loser and in some cases the winner will get dragged through the mud.

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