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  • daggum
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    #31
    Originally posted by lion33lit
    Quite frankly I'm not into highlighting character flaws, but all the ducking talk and who they fought can be debated with Floyd coming out on top! - imo.

    The famous Rope-A-Dope made two dopes out of the one who used it and the one who fell for it.....Marcianos best fights were against old over-the-hill cruiserweights that lacked skill and again - youth .....These so called greats didn't have what Mayweather had. But just like him they did have ambition and drive, doing very well for themselves, but not health-wise, which equates to LACKING in boxing defence.....

    Mayweathers style wouldnt be pleasing, to say, someone who'd appreciate KO artists - or a dogged come forward determined rock em' sock em' guy like Gatti, Ward or even Marciano. It's why I'd rate Mayweather as one of the "very best," because his "style" wouldnt please everyone, but was VERY VERY effective - even against seek & destroy KO threats....Only thing though, KO artists usually leave themselves open for getting severely hurt or KO'd by someone someone just as tough.....Mayweather is one of the few very best for sure!!
    floyd comes out on top when it comes to ducking? i agree

    all floyds best fights were against old guys so not sure how you can use that. oh wait a drained green canelo who barely beat trout. thats a great win too right?

    he ducked all the bestseek and destroy guys so how can you tell: prime cotto, prime marg, prime pac, i mean look how bad he was against maidana who was mediocre or castillo who was a seek and destroy light guy. its clear to see his matchmaking was what has yo tricked. well done to him for sure but in the end the fights should have told the story and since we dont hae the fights we cant possibly give him credit now can we?

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      floyd comes out on top when it comes to ducking? i agree

      all floyds best fights were against old guys so not sure how you can use that. oh wait a drained green canelo who barely beat trout. thats a great win too right?

      he ducked all the bestseek and destroy guys so how can you tell: prime cotto, prime marg, prime pac, i mean look how bad he was against maidana who was mediocre or castillo who was a seek and destroy light guy. its clear to see his matchmaking was what has yo tricked. well done to him for sure but in the end the fights should have told the story and since we dont hae the fights we cant possibly give him credit now can we?
      Prime Cotto was kept away from him when both were with Top Rank.

      Margarito wasn't ducked. Floyd left the company and moved on to chasing the lineal welterweight title for more money than Arum had offered him.

      Pac ducked Floyd in 2009 because of a little drug testing.

      Anything else you need to be corrected on?

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        #33
        Originally posted by lion33lit
        Mayweathers style wouldnt be pleasing, to say, someone who'd appreciate KO artists - or a dogged come forward determined rock em' sock em' guy like Gatti, Ward or even Marciano.

        t's why I'd rate Mayweather as one of the "very best," because his "style" wouldnt please everyone, but was VERY VERY effective - even against seek & destroy KO threats....Only thing though, KO artists usually leave themselves open for getting severely hurt or KO'd by someone someone just as tough.....Mayweather is one of the few very best for sure!!
        Floyd Mayweather loves cheap shots.

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        • The Old LefHook
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          #34
          When you have to go around making your own case, you're nothing.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
            Eh, debatable on overall skills. He barely beat an out of his prime De La Hoya. He also arguably lost the first fight against Castillo. Floyd also a lot of the time did petty things because he was the A side. Like the entire debacle with Maidana’s gloves. Floyd should likely be on a top 10 or 20 best ever list but he definitely shouldn’t be ahead of fighters like SRR, Ali & Leonard. They fought & beat better overall competition. As I said, he chose money over overall legacy as a fighter.
            de lahoya did the same thing to floyd what you accuse him of (A side petty things) besides that was floyds first 154. Floyd fought great fighters he just as he says made them look ordinary.

            Originally posted by Gentblue
            Paul Williams Shined when Floyd was retired the moved up and Sergio was a middleweight and the fight died and his Chavez fight. The fighter he really ducked was Winky Wright and Dibella backs that up.
            sergio offered him at 154 and yeah i forgot about winky

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            • lopetego
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              #36
              wait, this almost illiterate fool really memorized Menayothin's obscure and complicated thai name?

              the real TBE is living rent free in Floydette's brain lmao, it's killing him inside that his bogus 50-0 (with his last fight being a complete scam against a non-boxer) doesn't look that cool anymore

              I hope the real TBE retires 60-0 so I can watch this cancerous pretender whine and squirm even more

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              • edgarg
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                #37
                Originally posted by blowblow
                too bad it didn't happen.. ducking for 5 years is a big proof. i don't see the fact that he want to fight the best like the above troll said.
                He's the guy who dedicated his "fight" against an uncaring, going to jail, untrained, Corrales to "battered wives", and then a bit later went to jail himself for the same long-time beating up of his "wife"..

                He's the guy who kept on and on saying that Pacquiao "was taking PEDS, that he was on something". Therefore Pacquiao instituted a court suit against him for slander, libel and defamation. The case wad due to go to court, and Pacquiao's lawyers routinely asked Mayweather's, for a complete copy of Mayweather's medical records.

                They folded immediately, and then followed the usual settlement for the usual undisclosed amount. It was said that the amount came to tens of millions.

                Now I wonder WHAT it was in those medical records which made them so secret, and valuable to hide..........? Could it have had to do with the several "retirements" when capable opponents loomed......could it have had to do with cleaning out his system from whatever was in those intravenous bags..... and other similar illegal activities. We don't know, except that he was caught and photographed with a massive intravenous going on.

                Also Thomas Hauser did a two part, investigative report on the several repeated, failed tests that Mayweather had had, and which were covered up by him, and also the Commissions involved. hmm...???

                **** re; the Corrales fight. He came to late camp weighing over 150 lbs. Chico spent his "3 weeks training" in the sweatbox 4 hours a day. The morning of the weigh-in he was still 10 lbs overweight. T.K. Stewart wrote on this site that, "grey skinned, with all his bones sticking out" he had to be helped to walk to the scales. He failed the weight twice, going back to the sweatbox each time. A great victory indeed...The poor guy needed the money to pay his lawyers. ****

                Very often the wins or losses are not the real story of some fights. It's what happened in the weeks or months before the fights which decide the eventual verdict.

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                • Doubledagger
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by blowblow
                  "if he didn’t strategically fight his opponents at the times he wanted to."

                  but he is telling the truth.
                  Who is these fighters he strategically fougnt when he wanted to?

                  Coz last time I checked, Mosley and Oscar are the ones who ducked him for years!

                  There si video evidence of Mayweather calling them out when he was still at 140lbs.

                  Mosley was asked about fighting Floyd and made the excuse that he has a toothache and he wants to go on vacation. Oscar used the high risk low reward excuse.

                  Pacquiao? Last time I checked, it was Mayweather who came out of retirement and challenged Pac in 2009. Pac said he was scared of needles and didn't didnt want drug testing. His own trainer admitted that it was their fault the fight didn't happen back then.

                  Cotto's team said he wasn't ready when Mayeather tried to fight him before his initial retirement in 2007.

                  So tell me, who are these fighters he strategically fought when he wanted to?

                  Is it he who strategically fought them when he wanted or is it the other way around?

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                  • edgarg
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Prime Cotto was kept away from him when both were with Top Rank.

                    Margarito wasn't ducked. Floyd left the company and moved on to chasing the lineal welterweight title for more money than Arum had offered him.

                    Pac ducked Floyd in 2009 because of a little drug testing.

                    Anything else you need to be corrected on?
                    I recall the report very well. Mayweather was offered $8 mill and refused, said he could get more. It was reported that he'd accepted $8 mill and one cent for his chosen fight, I think against Baldomir..

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                    • v.cassiusali@ya
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                      #40
                      If Norton beat Ali thrice, then watch mayweather-castillo 1&2 and see for yourself how castillo beat mayweather's ass twice.

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