Can Floyd be the GOAT if he hasn't had a KO since 2007?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #31
    Originally posted by KillaMane26
    Dominating or getting a ref stoppage or making your opponent quit is 100x better than a KO. Imo
    Leave no doubt

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    • -Kev-
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      #32
      Well, he’s not the goat.

      P4P, everyone the same weight, everyone in their primes, RJJ would rule. I’m 100% positive that with these stipulations and every HOFer fought eachother, RJJ would come out with the best record and as the champion of boxing.

      I would also go as far to say that if everyone the same weight/height, prime Mike Tyson would be handful for 99.9% of all HOFers.

      Yes, Buster stopped Tyson. But Buster also had a significant physical advantage and was also almost KO’ed himself. So imagine a Buster Douglas who was shrunk to the exact size of the 5’10” Mike Tyson?

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      • KillaMane26
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        #33
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        When you beat a guy down and he quits in his corner, thats domination.

        As for the topic Greatest, can some body define Greatest, I think there is a good number of guys that could beat Floyd and he could also beat them, I cant get my head around Greatest, there isnt one there are many.
        I think it would just be a combination of things. It's almost impossible to pick one person.

        But SRR will always be the greatest in my book. This is the only fighter I'm biased towards btw

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        • Roadblock
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          #34
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          I think it would just be a combination of things. It's almost impossible to pick one person.

          But SRR will always be the greatest in my book. This is the only fighter I'm biased towards btw
          Yes its hard to define and SRR is No1 for many, if I had to name one guy I think I would go with Ali not so much for his ring work which was great, but more so his impact on the world, he is a timeless icon for boxing like Mozart Elvis and the Beetles were to music, I dont think we will have another Ali.

          And thats the thing if we look purely at the boxing as in who could beat who if they were pound for pound, now thats a road to hell lol.

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          • Gamer30168
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            #35
            I would say that yes a fighter CAN be the GOAT even if he lost his KO power late in his career but I don't believe that Floyd is the single GOAT or TBE though. The goal is to win and Floyd certainly knows how to do exactly that. As he aged and his hands became brittle he was forced to learn how to win on points with defense and out pointing his opponents. I see nothing wrong with that.

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            • Matt60
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              #36
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Well, he’s not the goat.

              P4P, everyone the same weight, everyone in their primes, RJJ would rule. I’m 100% positive that with these stipulations and every HOFer fought eachother, RJJ would come out with the best record and as the champion of boxing.

              I would also go as far to say that if everyone the same weight/height, prime Mike Tyson would be handful for 99.9% of all HOFers.

              Yes, Buster stopped Tyson. But Buster also had a significant physical advantage and was also almost KO’ed himself. So imagine a Buster Douglas who was shrunk to the exact size of the 5’10” Mike Tyson?
              Muhammad Ali is the GOAT. No one has dominated more HOFers. No one has won more wars than him.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #37
                SRR is just the default. So many great fighter’s and on a given night most of the top 50 ATG can probably beat each other’s asses. Why taking into account boxing transcendence is important. Not just how great was the fighter, but how great was the man and his effect on society.

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                • joseph5620
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  #1 Floyd not GOAT.

                  #2 knockouts is one area of being a great champion. You don't have to score knockouts to be considered great



                  This. Only a casual would consider knock outs as the end all and be all of greatness.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Matt60
                    Muhammad Ali is the GOAT. No one has dominated more HOFers. No one has won more wars than him.
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    SRR is just the default. So many great fighter’s and on a given night most of the top 50 ATG can probably beat each other’s asses. Why taking into account boxing transcendence is important. Not just how great was the fighter, but how great was the man and his effect on society.
                    But then u have a guy like Ali saying SRR was the greatest has to hold weight.

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