Can Floyd be the GOAT if he hasn't had a KO since 2007?

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  • Matt60
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    Can Floyd be the GOAT if he hasn't had a KO since 2007?

    I love floyd and believe he has the most boxing "skills" in history. But, at the same time I have to admit that his lack of power is concerning to me. You have to go back 13 years to find a legit KO from Mayweather. Ricky Hatton is the last man he knocked down. Since then hes had 11 fights without a legitimate KO. Can he be the GOAT if he doesn't the KO power that Hagler, Foreman, RJJ and the other greats had?
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    Originally posted by Matt60
    I love floyd and believe he has the most boxing "skills" in history. But, at the same time I have to admit that his lack of power is concerning to me. You have to go back 13 years to find a legit KO from Mayweather. Ricky Hatton is the last man he knocked down. Since then hes had 11 fights without a legitimate KO. Can he be the GOAT if he doesn't the KO power that Hagler, Foreman, RJJ and the other greats had?
    No because he’s probably about 20th on the all time great list

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    • R-Hand Southpaw
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      #3
      Id rather a guy took a few losses and learned and overcame this obstacles than a fraud who belittled his own talent by manufacturing his own career and turning the sport that made into a joke.

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      • TheReadyTimeBoy
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        #4
        Ortiz? He knocked him out

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        • davef
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          #5
          He stopped mcgregor lol but seriously yea he can it's even more impressive isn't it that a guy with the lack of instant ko power and his legs going with age was still able to dominate the sport

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          • kingstip9
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            #6
            It’s funny what a glossy undefeated record can do to some fans.
            Make them feel their fighter is truely unbeatable. No one is and no one ever will be.

            And then people tout off how many “champions” someone has beaten.
            In this era, those bragging rights are null and void with the watering down of multiple weight “champions” And “champions“ in the same weight class

            I think unifying in today’s world is to be appreciated (especially in tough divisions)
            Rather than having one or two fights in a weight class and jumping up, avoiding the tougher fights and picking the weaker competition (ahem Adrian Broner)

            And WHEN a fighter fights a certain opponent and what the circumstances were are so important.
            Let’s just say canelo would’ve been a sweeter win if floyd just let him go to the full 154lbs. But he wanted to be “smart” and drained him. And in my eyes. It just creates a “what if scenario”
            And the shame is that I think he would’ve easily won either way. So that’s him.

            Floyd’s a great fighter. But due to the fact that he carefully manufactured and managed his career so strictly, and didn’t take the really defiant fights at the precise times (although he did well in his pretty boy days)
            That’s what stops him from being anywhere near the top 10 of all time.

            The guy is a great.
            But don’t let flashy gimmicks, and “tbe” shouting and undefeated records take away from the fact that from the dela Hoya fight onwards he always stayed within his comfort zone and carefully chose fights when he felt he “knew” he could win.
            Smart sure.

            And yeah you can say “oh but he fought Pacquiao”
            Yeah. I know. In 2015.

            Where was he in 2009 after Pacquiao stopped cotto. With a list of sudden demands like full drug testing! “I know he’s on something”

            Sure. In hindsight it put a magnifying glass over ped users in today’s updating testing. But the fact is, Floyd was so perplexed by Pacquiao and concerned, he would rather try and prove Pacquiao was cheating than step up and fight him. And it shows in 2015 because he fought very anxiously in a close fight (even his old man told him off in the corner)

            And this is the guy that got a scandal of pumping iv fluids in his body to rehydrate after weigh ins (imagine if Pacquiao was caught doing that)

            More of an entertainer, more of a businessman than a fighter.
            He wants to make money and take on the least risk for the most money.
            He did it.
            But that ain’t no tbe in my eyes.

            That’s a clever man, doing a selfish (and understandable) act

            But due to these actions, he’s well off my raider as anywhere near the greatest of all time.

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            • GrandpaBernard
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              #7
              Neither Floyd nor his fans claimed Floyd is the KO King

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #8
                Pacquiao has only had one KO since 2009.

                And that came against the carcass of a shot Lucas Matthysse.

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                • rudy
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matt60
                  I love floyd and believe he has the most boxing "skills" in history. But, at the same time I have to admit that his lack of power is concerning to me. You have to go back 13 years to find a legit KO from Mayweather. Ricky Hatton is the last man he knocked down. Since then hes had 11 fights without a legitimate KO. Can he be the GOAT if he doesn't the KO power that Hagler, Foreman, RJJ and the other greats had?
                  Only fools think that everybody knows he is not the GOAT you might as well say JOE Cazalghe and SVEN otke GREATEST.

                  i bet the author does not who Sven Otke ?

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                  • brown_knight06
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                    #10
                    Sugar ray Robinson is unsurpassed. No one will ever be better than him.

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