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  • BodyBagz
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    #51
    Originally posted by Mickey Pearson
    Lmao so chicken sht Floyd is going to teach chicken legs wilder to run and hold? Lmaoooo
    Nelo, DLH, Mosley, Pac, Maidana 2x, Corrales, JMM off the top of my head.

    If a guy is going to be trained, you better believe he is going to look for an ex-fighter with a certified resume like May's. Who did it better that's still alive ?

    Don't do it ! Don't say Pac

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #52
      Originally posted by edgarg
      No, I meant I have NEVER seen a defensive 7'7" skinny fighter. You didn't mention Joshua until now.. Joshua showed his "defence" by moving away and avoiding contact, not by defensive skills. Although if you don't know much about the finer point of boxing, you might think it was good defence. True, using your feet to AVOID punches as part of your defensive tactics is O.K. but not surely be the WHOLE of them. He fought "scared" and extremely cautious and clumsy all the way, completely unnatural for him; like an amateur actually. However he had enough training to stick out his left hand and gain points against a small, fat, short-armed Ruiz. . Wilder doesn't really have that. Ruiz deserved to lose ..

      Anyway the main point was that at Wilders' free-swinging-style old age, it would be an impossibility to learn skills that, if he had been so inclined, would have to have been inculcated at an early age. And he's have to have that certain TEMPRAMENT...which he does NOT have.

      AND..I do Not see how a handful of words taken from the beginning of my long post, together with a couple from the very bottom of my post, is "showing "me anything. . I responded because I didn't see anything in your post faintly connected to mine. It was just gobble-de-rubbish to me. And what was the picture all about...?? What was it of.??

      I've never been known for denseness, but in that case I must plead guilty. I could not penetrate your mystical code, which I now see, I was supposed to interpret, as you giving me a good example......???? (here, I'm shrugging my shoulders..)

      A good time to completely close this pointless matter.
      Interesting.

      In one breath you ask for an intelligent debate, so I provide you one, starting with the most notable, recent example of a fighter that turned "defensive". You then proceed to go on a rant, changing the height (which doesn't matter) and basically just hating on Wilder. Which means you just hate Wilder - and aren't really interested in any intelligent debate.

      Let me help you a bit more.

      "Defense" is doing whatever you have to do NOT to get hit. Doesn't matter if you swat punches, doesn't matter if you duck punches, doesn't matter if you roll punches, or you straight up run like McGregor did against Nate Diaz or Joshua did against Ruiz. It's all defense.

      If you honestly think that Joshua mastered the "Sweet Science" in the span of a few months, you're crazy. Anybody can run. It's the easiest thing to do - because it's the opposite of what you're trained to do.

      If you think Wilder can't run against Fury, you're just hating. Because ANY man can run. And I said it before - it's Wilder's only shot, is to lure Tyson Fury into a trap. At which point I gave you a specific dual example of where exactly that happened.

      That's when you're supposed to go back and watch those fights to validate what I'm saying...and along the way, educate yourself as to where I'm coming from.

      Or don't. It's your call, bro.

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      • edgarg
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        #53
        Originally posted by revelated
        Interesting.

        In one breath you ask for an intelligent debate, so I provide you one, starting with the most notable, recent example of a fighter that turned "defensive". You then proceed to go on a rant, changing the height (which doesn't matter) and basically just hating on Wilder. Which means you just hate Wilder - and aren't really interested in any intelligent debate.

        Let me help you a bit more.

        "Defense" is doing whatever you have to do NOT to get hit. Doesn't matter if you swat punches, doesn't matter if you duck punches, doesn't matter if you roll punches, or you straight up run like McGregor did against Nate Diaz or Joshua did against Ruiz. It's all defense.

        If you honestly think that Joshua mastered the "Sweet Science" in the span of a few months, you're crazy. Anybody can run. It's the easiest thing to do - because it's the opposite of what you're trained to do.

        If you think Wilder can't run against Fury, you're just hating. Because ANY man can run. And I said it before - it's Wilder's only shot, is to lure Tyson Fury into a trap. At which point I gave you a specific dual example of where exactly that happened.

        That's when you're supposed to go back and watch those fights to validate what I'm saying...and along the way, educate yourself as to where I'm coming from.

        Or don't. It's your call, bro.
        You're garbling both what I said and it's intent. Talking nonsense. Moving away, boxing scared isn't showing defence per se, although using feet is part of any good defense. There's no point in my repeating what I, and others have pointed out on this subject. I quoted about 20 top class defensive boxers the other day, all REAL fighters, Most were Hall of Famers, who had unsurpassed defences, and never once looked scared, and inching cautiously towards a win, like Joshua..

        Really running away is like what Oscar did in the last 4 rounds of his Trinidad loss, as was the second rd between Hearns and Hagler.

        What difference does it make anyway. The subject lacks purpose.

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        • champion4ever
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          #54
          I like that coming From Money Mayweather. It was spoken like a true friend.

          I know that the two aren't close or anything but it was quite very generous of him to offer his services to Deontay Wilder.

          I know that it must really make Wilder's heart glad in knowing that Floyd Money Mayweather is interested in working with him so he can improve in his next fight.

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