Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Wilder Has Bombs - We Can Make His Skills A lot Better!

[edgarg]

Yeah I was about to say, because



Doe

You are trying to make some sort of a point, I assume, but just taking 2 minute parts of my comment, (from the beginning and the ending), completely out of context, says nothing. Why not TRY not to be clever and say what you want to I don't mind, in fact would appreciate it..

(actually it was pretty good, but it leaves no path for an intelligent conversation between us)

[Combat Talk Radio]

You are trying to make some sort of a point, I assume, but just taking 2 minute parts of my comment, (from the beginning and the ending), completely out of context, says nothing. Why not TRY not to be clever and say what you want to I don't mind, in fact would appreciate it..

(actually it was pretty good, but it leaves no path for an intelligent conversation between us)

Well, if you want to say "rarely have I seen" a tall defensive fighter, I would agree; it is rare.

But you implied that you didn't think it likely that a tall fighter could suddenly be defensive. All I did was give an example, the perfect example, because you may have forgotten. That's all.

Which is just me saying that anything is possible. Seeing Joshua go from a guy who purposely goes for knockouts to being relegated to running from a short, chubby Mexican for fear of getting sparked out again means that Wilder could do the exact same thing for the exact same reason.

Is it LIKELY? I say yes. We saw how he fought Stiverne the first time. He was just as cautious, just as tentative there as he was against Fury.

Stiverne was just afraid to engage the moment he took the punch that caused him to go for a double-leg tackle.

Fury took the power and realized that's all Wilder had - then proceeded to walk him down.

Which means Wilder's ONLY shot is to be defensive and basically copy what Joshua did, for the same reason (not to get sparked out by a chubby opponent again).

Of course, he'll get booed out of the building should he do that, but whatever you have to do to win.

[SUBZER0ED]

Wilder is too old, uncoordinated in footwork and unskilled to learn how to defend like Mayweather, who learned his craft from age 6. Floyd knows this.

[Walexhris]

"I'm here to help fighters, even Wilder. I'm here, all he's got to do is let me know what he wants to do and we can make it happen." -Floyd

Looks like Floyd's looking for a (defensive) trainer's position or at least as an adviser. Wilder needs defensive skills badly. Please don't change their styles much.

I'm not too excited when I see him training Davis beyond defense. Haney fits Floyd's style perfectly. He should focus on him more.

Davis does a lot of things pretty boy Floyd used to do, with regards to staying in the pocket
Watch Floyd vs Philip ndou...David ain't even at that level yet...so, yes there are a lot of things Floyd can teach Davis beyond defence.

[Walexhris]

Well, if you want to say "rarely have I seen" a tall defensive fighter, I would agree; it is rare.

But you implied that you didn't think it likely that a tall fighter could suddenly be defensive. All I did was give an example, the perfect example, because you may have forgotten. That's all.

Which is just me saying that anything is possible. Seeing Joshua go from a guy who purposely goes for knockouts to being relegated to running from a short, chubby Mexican for fear of getting sparked out again means that Wilder could do the exact same thing for the exact same reason.

Is it LIKELY? I say yes. We saw how he fought Stiverne the first time. He was just as cautious, just as tentative there as he was against Fury.

Stiverne was just afraid to engage the moment he took the punch that caused him to go for a double-leg tackle.

Fury took the power and realized that's all Wilder had - then proceeded to walk him down.

Which means Wilder's ONLY shot is to be defensive and basically copy what Joshua did, for the same reason (not to get sparked out by a chubby opponent again).

Of course, he'll get booed out of the building should he do that, but whatever you have to do to win.

It won't work for wilder, simply because fury is no ruiz

[Combat Talk Radio]

It won't work for wilder, simply because fury is no ruiz

Certainly Fury is more defensively sound, yes. But as we saw in the first fight as well as the USS Cunningham fight, he does tend to get lured into a false sense of confidence if he hadn't yet landed anything of significance.

Meaning the best way to deal with Fury is to catch him with something he doesn't see coming - set a trap. Then don't chase him, let him make his own mistake, and deal with it accordingly.

Same basic strategy that Floyd did against Marquez, actually.

I think Wilder could do it IF he were willing to listen. It's the listening that's the problem.

[edgarg]

Well, if you want to say "rarely have I seen" a tall defensive fighter, I would agree; it is rare.

But you implied that you didn't think it likely that a tall fighter could suddenly be defensive. All I did was give an example, the perfect example, because you may have forgotten. That's all.

Which is just me saying that anything is possible. Seeing Joshua go from a guy who purposely goes for knockouts to being relegated to running from a short, chubby Mexican for fear of getting sparked out again means that Wilder could do the exact same thing for the exact same reason.

Is it LIKELY? I say yes. We saw how he fought Stiverne the first time. He was just as cautious, just as tentative there as he was against Fury.

Stiverne was just afraid to engage the moment he took the punch that caused him to go for a double-leg tackle.

Fury took the power and realized that's all Wilder had - then proceeded to walk him down.

Which means Wilder's ONLY shot is to be defensive and basically copy what Joshua did, for the same reason (not to get sparked out by a chubby opponent again).

Of course, he'll get booed out of the building should he do that, but whatever you have to do to win.

No, I meant I have NEVER seen a defensive 7'7" skinny fighter. You didn't mention Joshua until now.. Joshua showed his "defence" by moving away and avoiding contact, not by defensive skills. Although if you don't know much about the finer point of boxing, you might think it was good defence. True, using your feet to AVOID punches as part of your defensive tactics is O.K. but not surely be the WHOLE of them. He fought "scared" and extremely cautious and clumsy all the way, completely unnatural for him; like an amateur actually. However he had enough training to stick out his left hand and gain points against a small, fat, short-armed Ruiz. . Wilder doesn't really have that. Ruiz deserved to lose ..

Anyway the main point was that at Wilders' free-swinging-style old age, it would be an impossibility to learn skills that, if he had been so inclined, would have to have been inculcated at an early age. And he's have to have that certain TEMPRAMENT...which he does NOT have.

AND..I do Not see how a handful of words taken from the beginning of my long post, together with a couple from the very bottom of my post, is "showing "me anything. . I responded because I didn't see anything in your post faintly connected to mine. It was just gobble-de-rubbish to me. And what was the picture all about...?? What was it of.??

I've never been known for denseness, but in that case I must plead guilty. I could not penetrate your mystical code, which I now see, I was supposed to interpret, as you giving me a good example......???? (here, I'm shrugging my shoulders..)

A good time to completely close this pointless matter.

[BodyBagz]

It's all moot anyway. I posted some months ago, Lennox tried to help Wilder throw a proper jab.

Wilder isn't interested in learning anything new; he feels "I only need to be perfect for a few seconds".

But he has proven his own words of wisdom to be false

If a person with May's pedigree gets in his ear and tells him what's what, he would listen. Wilder may not want to hear from another HW.

[BodyBagz]

Has GGG not slowed down though? He's clearly not the fighter he was two or three years ago. It's the result of the natural aging process, regardless of how many rounds you usually go in a fight.

That's what fighting top level opponents will do to a person. And if a person is constantly fed questionable opponents, they will look even more vulnerable. If guys like GGG kept fighting the LeMehs of the sport, they could certainly fight well into their 60's.

[Mickey Pearson]

Lmao so chicken sht Floyd is going to teach chicken legs wilder to run and hold? Lmaoooo