Are we seeing the end of American boxing?

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  • MUNG
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    #11
    Lots of good american boxers around and more on the way up, the more competition between different nationalities the better, makes for more exciting fights

    would be good to see more white american guys as well to add to the mix, plenty of latino and african americans in the rankings it seems to me anyway

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    • HTown Killer
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      #12
      Yea even after this past decade people been saying the sport is dying off an the other countries are taking. Yes their is more champions outside of this country more than ever but with the top dollars here in this country all those fighters outside the US kno one day they would like to fight under those bright lights here in the US either in Las Vegas or maybe at Barclays since in brooklyn top fights an entertainment events are happening there now

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #13
        Wishful thinking. There are a lot of good boxers in the US. It is a matter of time that there is another superstar to emerge.

        Almost all superstars in boxing come to fight in the US one time or another and sometimes in a consistent basis.

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #14
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          No, in fact the US amateur system is much stronger than it has been in the last 10-15 years. US boxing will always be good, just won't completely dominate with other countries now more involved in the sport...And that's how it should be.
          This. Whilst popularity of boxing in the US might have waned some, it's still in a solid state, it's more that overall the professional sport has become more international which is absolutely something we should welcome.

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          • REDEEMER
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            #15
            The opening up of it being global has brought in greater talent in other countries ,not hard to figure out it’s just a harder sport to dominate,it’s not solely restricted to the top trainers ,top gyms and programs in the U.S anymore .

            People who think it’s dying just are probably from here the U.S ,it’s grown a lot so much we actually do need another class separating guys of 200 pounds to over 240 and or around even if you disagree no one group of fighters near 200 pounds goes into heavy weight nowadays .

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              No, in fact the US amateur system is much stronger than it has been in the last 10-15 years. US boxing will always be good, just won't completely dominate with other countries now more involved in the sport...And that's how it should be.
              What makes you say that? Not dis*****g you necessarily just curious why that's your take or what info you got backing that up that I may not be aware of or overlooking.

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              • KTFOKING
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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                What makes you say that? Not dis*****g you necessarily just curious why that's your take or what info you got backing that up that I may not be aware of or overlooking.
                Billy Walsh has done wonders for the US national team and just look at the 2016 Olympic class and how much better they fared opposed to the 2012 class. This 2020 class is pretty damn stacked as well but of course COVID hit and ruined that. But the Americans are competing well in international tournaments now and that wasn't always the case.

                Here is a good article about Walsh from last year:

                By Ron Lewis - Billy Walsh knew he was taking on a big task when he left Ireland to try and revive the United States as an Olympic boxing power, but four years into the job and 11 months away from the Tokyo Games things may be starting to turning for the better. The World Championships are taking place in Yekate...

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                • KTFOKING
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  This. Whilst popularity of boxing in the US might have waned some, it's still in a solid state, it's more that overall the professional sport has become more international which is absolutely something we should welcome.
                  Boxing isn't huge stateside and that much is clear. No doubt the UFC becoming the more popular combat sport hasn't helped matters, but the talent is still there. Having dominant fighters from around the world opposed to majority of the top fighters being from one area makes the sport more fun and interesting. It isn't a bad thing that you are having so many top level fighters coming from the Eastern European countries.

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    Boxing isn't huge stateside and that much is clear. No doubt the UFC becoming the more popular combat sport hasn't helped matters, but the talent is still there. Having dominant fighters from around the world opposed to majority of the top fighters being from one area makes the sport more fun and interesting. It isn't a bad thing that you are having so many top level fighters coming from the Eastern European countries.
                    For sure, and I also look forward to a future in which we get more African and Asian fighters too, maybe in 50 years we'll even be talking about the "Nigerian' school or the 'central Chinese style' man, who knows? All I know is the more different dudes from the more different places we get the better it is for the sport overall.

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                    • Luilun
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ELPacman
                      I mean, it's not like it used to be in the past but will it ever get there again? Most athletic kids growing up in America I think are trying to become basketball, football, baseball players. I don't think they think about boxing unless they grew up around it or have the right ingredients for it. If not that then they'll probably think more into the MMA idea these days than boxing. MMA has TONS of white fighters and they and their friends can relate to it more so than boxing where it is dominant primarily by black and hispanic fighters. If the white kid himself isn't inspired, then he probably has a friend or two or three that is into MMA and could get his friend into it.
                      White Kids go into MMA rather than boxing because most have wrestling backgrounds. Let’s be honest Whites can wrestle better than they can box. Most great White fighters today come from Europe or Eastern Europe

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