Greater fighter: Andre Ward or Wladimir Klitschko

[AJ's Boy]

Can argue for either

[dannnnn]

Wlad easily. Dominated his division for years and fought everyone around. Took his setbacks and losses like a man and came back stronger. Went out on a high with a great performance against a young hungry champion in Joshua.

Ward managed his career really carefully and was very risk averse. Always looking for the low risk, high reward option, and always had an advantage in some way such as the location (Super Six), the weight (Chad Dawson), the ref (Kessler fight) or the judges (Kovalev), if not a combination of several. The only genuine risk he took in his career was taking the fight with Kovalev - a fight which he clearly lost and was bailed out by corrupt judging.

Overall, Ward was a good but overrated boxer (when he wasn't fouling and clinching) who didn't do enough to leave behind a great legacy and escaped with his '0' while he still could. I'm not a huge fan of Wlad's by any means but you can't help but respect his legacy and what he accomplished. Wlad was greater and it's not even close.

[daggum]

Wlad easily. Dominated his division for years and fought everyone around. Took his setbacks and losses like a man and came back stronger. Went out on a high with a great performance against a young hungry champion in Joshua.

Ward managed his career really carefully and was very risk averse. Always looking for the low risk, high reward option, and always had an advantage in some way such as the location (Super Six), the weight (Chad Dawson), the ref (Kessler fight) or the judges (Kovalev), if not a combination of several. The only genuine risk he took in his career was taking the fight with Kovalev - a fight which he clearly lost and was bailed out by corrupt judging.

Overall, Ward was a good but overrated boxer (when he wasn't fouling and clinching) who didn't do enough to leave behind a great legacy and escaped with his '0' while he still could. I'm not a huge fan of Wlad's by any means but you can't help but respect his legacy and what he accomplished. Wlad was greater and it's not even close.

everything you said was true but the problem is wlad was also a horrible cheat. his entire style was also based on cheating. not that he did this every fight, he didnt need his cheating tactics against alex leapai but against povetking he held like 200 something times. same with ward against paul smith, no cheating(cept when he got rocked) but against kovalev and kessler? cheating time!

[Earl-Hickey]

Klitschko.

Ward didn't have many fights and didn't prove he could beat all comers

[joseph5620]

Ward. Klitschko was stopped 3 times and knocked down about a dozen times. Ward was unbeaten and he's a two division champion. That speaks for itself.

[QueensburyRules]

- -I like how he sued his dying soon to be dead promoter who was brilliant in keeping him at home in an international tourney so he could go undefeated.

[dannnnn]

everything you said was true but the problem is wlad was also a horrible cheat. his entire style was also based on cheating. not that he did this every fight, he didnt need his cheating tactics against alex leapai but against povetking he held like 200 something times. same with ward against paul smith, no cheating(cept when he got rocked) but against kovalev and kessler? cheating time!

Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. The Povetkin fight was absolutely horrible to watch and a fair ref would have disqualified Wlad. He definitely fought his fair share of fights under advantageous conditions too, no dispute there.

[kidbazooka]

Ward easily.

Klit was knocked out like 15 times

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

wlad klitschko is better! he was more dominant than ward! he fought longer and he proved he was the best far longer than ward did plus ward had lot stretches where he was inactive plus ward quitting the sport when light heavyweight was super red hot hurts him.

[The D3vil]

Andre Ward was more talented, but Wladimir Kiltschko has achieved the more historically 'Kiltschko was the last great heavyweight champion whether people liked him or not' etc.

This right here.

Ward was my man, but to be heavyweight champ for like 10 years is a hell of an accomplishment.