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  • Mammoth
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    #11
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Higher ceiling than David? or than Bud's other opponents?

    And yeah, I expected more from him in the fight than to just stand in front of Bud and shake his head.
    Higher ceiling than Kava

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    • lolpz
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      #12
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

      There is still no proof PBC guys beats Kavaliauskas, for example.
      Yeah for sure man, definitely agree with you here.

      It’s not like Ray Robinson outboxed him (then went on to get dominated by Ugas) then Mikael Whoski was clearly beating him and even clearly winning the round he initially got dropped in before getting caught. Then was ahead on two scorecards or anything craaaazy like that...

      No way PBC guys will be able to handle him...Or Benavidez Jr. who was apparently BRUTALIZED/violated by Spence in sparring and still gave Crawford a good fight with one leg.

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        #13
        Originally posted by lolpz
        Yeah for sure man, definitely agree with you here.

        It’s not like Ray Robinson outboxed him (then went on to get dominated by Ugas) then Mikael Whoski was clearly beating him and even clearly winning the round he initially got dropped in before getting caught. Then was ahead on two scorecards or anything craaaazy like that...

        No way PBC guys will be able to handle him...Or Benavidez Jr. who was apparently BRUTALIZED/violated by Spence in sparring and still gave Crawford a good fight with one leg.
        Any video of this? or is it just another internet sparring story?

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        • KillaMane26
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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander
          At lightweight and super lightweight, absolutely.

          At welterweight, nope.
          Is this simple..... I don't see how or why anyone would try to spin or argue against this...

          Except if your Anti-PBC..... But it's best to ignore guys with agendas

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            He gave first defeat to Benavidez jr. and Kavaliauskas, two strong unbeaten welterweights in their prime.

            He gave first defeat to Horn.

            He gave first defeat to Postol.

            There was no controversy in those fights, he got no gift decision, split decisions..

            There is still no proof PBC guys beats Kavaliauskas, for example.
            His record at 140 is excellent. His record at 147 is not so good for a world champion. Spence's record at 147 is much better. Crawford beat very average Horn to win the title. Horn's robbery over Pac aside he is not very good and probably done now. Benavidez and mean machine were undefeated but not very good with no good wins and mean machine had a draw with mediocre Robinson. Khan was already washed up and had not bean a champion for 6 years. Crawford's next fight is another washed up Spence KO victim Brook. Meanwhile Spence fights champion Mikey, champion Porter and legit top contender Garcia in his last 3 fights. Spence is defending his title against much better welterweights than Crawford is. Go to Ring magazine or even boxrec and see where these challengers are rated.

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            • xxlefthookxx
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              #16
              Originally posted by W1LL
              You are looking for reasons to praise his opposition. He still hasn't fought any of the other top, top Welterweights. His best wins are Ricky Burns, Viktor Postol and Julius Indongo. Hardly world-beaters.
              This is correct. Being unified in a division of 2nd tier fighters means nothing. Burns was average, Indongo was not much better, and the win over Postol looks better now than at the time.

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              • 4truth
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                #17
                He has a good resume at 135 and 140 if it doesn't bother you that even at 135 he was in the ring in the mid 150's. It isn't an unfair advantage exactly but it also isn't and advantage many fighters can keep taking when they get into their 30's. Crawford is a welter and really always has been.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by famicommander
                  At lightweight and super lightweight, absolutely.

                  At welterweight, nope.

                  Even at 135 and 140 his resume is not jaw dropping. He's beaten nobody impressive. John molina, hank lundy, postol...These are all decent wins at best.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by W1LL
                    You are looking for reasons to praise his opposition. He still hasn't fought any of the other top, top Welterweights. His best wins are Ricky Burns, Viktor Postol and Julius Indongo. Hardly world-beaters.
                    For real giving his opponents too much credit.

                    When you unify 140 by beating the dangerous Indongo you are the man hahahaha

                    Crawford hasn’t fought a fighter who is a true puncher puncher with skills. His last fight he was having issues with Kauva guy but Kauva was sloppy and crude with his punches. A counter with puncher hurts Crawford bad

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                    • famicommander
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Southpawology
                      Even at 135 and 140 his resume is not jaw dropping. He's beaten nobody impressive. John molina, hank lundy, postol...These are all decent wins at best.
                      He was lineal king in both divisions. That alone is impressive.

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