Comments Thread For: Joshua: Fury, Wilder Would Not Be Biggest Names I've Fought or Best I've Challenged

[TMLT87]

Compare Klitschko’s body of work to Fury’s and tell me who ranks better historically at this very moment in time?

The far more relevant question is who is the better fighter between 41 year old end of career Wlad or prime Fury. Its not a hard one to awnser either because...you know...they fought, and Fury won quite easily.


I'm usually more of a Joshua defender here, but this **** is ****ing hilarious. Wlads stock in 2017 was nowhere near Furys stock today and the notion that he was a bigger win for AJ than Fury would be is absolute ****ing insanity.

[ShoulderRoll]

To be the man you have to beat the man.

Fury ended Klitschko's reign, Joshua. You didn't.

So he's the man. You're not.

[daggum]

To be the man you have to beat the man.

Fury ended Klitschko's reign, Joshua. You didn't.

So he's the man. You're not.

actually jennings was robbed against wlad and ortiz beat jennings and wilder beat ortiz so wilder is the man

[ShoulderRoll]

actually jennings was robbed against wlad and ortiz beat jennings and wilder beat ortiz so wilder is the man

Naw, Jennings wasn't robbed against Klit.

But he did give him a competitive fight and lasted the distance.

Then Luis Ortiz nuked Jennings in 7 rounds.

[LoadedWraps]

I think you’re the one being disingenuous - everyone knows the triangle theory doesn’t work in boxing, yet here you are using it. Besides, AJ fought Klitschko as a 19 fight novice with less than 4 years pro experience. At that stage of his development, Fury was going life and death with an ex-cruiser with 3 losses out of his previous 4 going into that fight, and had more years before he faced Klitschko.

I’m still not convinced we saw the best of Klitschko in that Fury fight and it just felt that he would have fared better in a rematch that we were denied. While AJ significantly struggled, his eventual victory was far more destructive and complete than Fury could have possibly managed, so much so that Klitschko waived a rematch.

It's not a triangle theory fallacy to say fighter A dominated / schooled fighter B, Fighter C went life and death with fighter B and thus fighter A had the better win. Schooling someone thoroughly is always considered more dominant than barely scratching by with a KO. If you truly dominate someone you aren't getting touched up. Wlad had AJ on skates.

[alexjust]

I'm not arguing that Fury is more accomplished than Wlad all time, he isnt. I'm saying that Fury is obviously a better boxer than the verge of retirement version of Wlad that Joshua faced.

I think so too and it would be really weird if he wasn't It would also prove that Wlad is some sort of a superhuman. Although he was certainly way past it, he was still in tremendous and almost unprecedented shape for a 41 y.o. I think Fury now would have beaten him then, but Fury right when they were supposed to have a rematch- I'm not sure.

[daggum]

Naw, Jennings wasn't robbed against Klit.

But he did give him a competitive fight and lasted the distance.

Then Luis Ortiz nuked Jennings in 7 rounds.

you have to run with my trolling so my posts and theories make sense. you cant be all realistic. thats no fun

[Blackstarr]

The far more relevant question is who is the better fighter between 41 year old end of career Wlad or prime Fury. Its not a hard one to awnser either because...you know...they fought, and Fury won quite easily.


I'm usually more of a Joshua defender here, but this **** is ****ing hilarious. Wlads stock in 2017 was nowhere near Furys stock today and the notion that he was a bigger win for AJ than Fury would be is absolute ****ing insanity.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that Klitschko was a bigger win for AJ than Fury, or at least I’m certainly not. I’m pushing back against the idea that Fury‘s win against Klitschko is better and that he is a better win for AJ.

I think people that do completely forget that the story of the fight aftermath at the time was almost entirely around what Klitschko didn’t do, rather than what Fury did. The performance was just so atypical and listless, compared to the dialled in version we witnessed the fight after.

This article sums it up perfectly:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2593843-wladimir-klitschko-vs-tyson-fury-winner-scorecard-and-reaction

I personally don’t feel that fight was an accurate representation of Klitschko and in the absence of a rematch, I have to take his overall body of work and agree that at this moment in time, he’s a bigger, better and more career defining win for AJ.

[Cool Scant]

So why didn’t he then? Wilder’s management were busy crying that he shouldn’t be rushed into fighting Klitschko, only for Fury to beat him in the very same year, so gtfoh with that nonsense.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-n...-finkel--86714

Klitschko was 41 years old coming off a loss to Fury where he looked old shot and couldn't throw a punch and a 18 month layoff without a tuneup like AJ did. Nice try at deflect though. We are talking about AJ not Fury smh

[Cool Scant]

What a clown you actually responded .lol ok he was gifted a draw if that makes you sleep more soundly at night but was brutally stopped in the rematch due to costume malfunction

wilder wasn't gifted a draw with a guy KD twice and knocked unconscious.

But it's a shame that you weren't gifted a brain. You're a full on (R)/etard