Comments Thread For: Joshua: Fury, Wilder Would Not Be Biggest Names I've Fought or Best I've Challenged

[TMLT87]

Yeah 100% agree. Fury has beaten Seferi, Pianeta, Schrwarz, Wallin and Wilder.

I'd like to see AJ match that!

Hes also won practically every round against the same Wlad that Joshua went life and death with 18 months later, and he beat Wilder, twice if we are being honest.

Youre being disingenuous here. If Wlad is Joshuas best win (as most would claim) and Fury dominated Wlad, doesnt that mean Fury is better than anyone Joshua has faced?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Fury fans be like “41 year old Klitschko was never in any wars before their fight, but Kovalev was older than Klitschko doe.”

[Blackstarr]

Hes also won practically every round against the same Wlad that Joshua went life and death with 18 months later, and he beat Wilder, twice if we are being honest.

Youre being disingenuous here. If Wlad is Joshuas best win (as most would claim) and Fury dominated Wlad, doesnt that mean Fury is better than anyone Joshua has faced?

I think you’re the one being disingenuous - everyone knows the triangle theory doesn’t work in boxing, yet here you are using it. Besides, AJ fought Klitschko as a 19 fight novice with less than 4 years pro experience. At that stage of his development, Fury was going life and death with an ex-cruiser with 3 losses out of his previous 4 going into that fight, and had more years before he faced Klitschko.

I’m still not convinced we saw the best of Klitschko in that Fury fight and it just felt that he would have fared better in a rematch that we were denied. While AJ significantly struggled, his eventual victory was far more destructive and complete than Fury could have possibly managed, so much so that Klitschko waived a rematch.

[Noelanthony]

AJ being back to ****y again. He runs his lips about being humble and respecting other fighters and all this other PR crap, yet he is the exact opposite. Act what you preach.

Fury has had a longer career but out of the ring with health problems both mentally and physically. Yes, we can say by his own doing, or as experts say is not because mental health is not by choice.

Klitschko was embarrassed by Fury and he never really laid a hand on him. Fury toyed with him. On the other hand, AJ was dropped and had problems with Klitschko. Sure he stopped him, but he beat an older klitschko that was out of the ring for how long??? Plus AJ use to spar with him so that's already an advantage plus AJ fought Klitschko on his home turf. I give Fury the edge here.

AJ has ducked Wilder for years. There's no denying that. Fury went to the U.S. to fight Wilder twice and went to Germany to fight Klitschko. AJ has to stay home and has not proven he can deal with adversity fighting a fighter on their own soil... Don't bother with Saudi Arabia comments.... Neutral ground fighting an undisciplined fighter who got fat.

Resumes don't mean squat when you are fighting boxer's out of their prime. Wilder and Fury would have beaten those same fighters. Parker is overrated. I like him and he's a good guy but he doesn't have the killer instinct because he's such a good dude. Wilder and Fury would have had him out by the 7th.

AJ beat Povetkin who beat Whyte that was knocked out by both the same way... What's that tell you? Povetkin has been on the decline for many years and is old...yes still dangerous if you don't have defensive skills...

AJ talks about his record but it's really garbage. Who has he fought that was considered and equal opponent or better? You can say what you want about Wilders resume but he fought the best out there in Fury. That alone beats AJs crappy hand picked resume.

Wilder fought the best but when he chose him he didn’t think he was the best , no one did . In any case he lost twice and was outboxed against the best fighter on his resume . Wilder was also outboxed twice against the second best opponent on his resume. I rate fury but Klitschko was 38/39 when fighting Fury hardly a spring chicken.

In any case you can’t get beaten up by the only real fighter on your resume and say he has a better resume because he was knocked out

[TMLT87]

I think you’re the one being disingenuous - everyone knows the triangle theory doesn’t work in boxing, yet here you are using it. Besides, AJ fought Klitschko as a 19 fight novice with less than 4 years pro experience. At that stage of his development, Fury was going life and death with an ex-cruiser with 3 losses out of his previous 4 going into that fight, and had more years before he faced Klitschko.

I’m still not convinced we saw the best of Klitschko in that Fury fight and it just felt that he would have fared better in a rematch that we were denied. While AJ significantly struggled, his eventual victory was far more destructive and complete than Fury could have possibly managed, so much so that Klitschko waived a rematch.

Okay, so 41 year old Wlad is actually a better opponent than Fury, who is in his prime and won a near shutout against that same Wlad right before Joshua fought him. Totally makes sense.

If AJ beats Fury, it will be his career defining win up to this point by a wide margin. Are you seriously disagreeing with that?

[Cool Scant]

That version of Wlad probably knocks Wilder out. And old Povetkin is at least equal to Ortiz.

And when was Wilder in his prime? he was 10 years into his career and in his mid 30s already when he stopped fighting the kind of opponents prospects are supposed to be fighting.

Klitschko chin is suspect. He was washed when AJ fought him. Wilder would've blasted that guy out in 7

[Cool Scant]

Wilder fought the best but when he chose him he didn’t think he was the best , no one did . In any case he lost twice and was outboxed against the best fighter on his resume . Wilder was also outboxed twice against the second best opponent on his resume. I rate fury but Klitschko was 38/39 when fighting Fury hardly a spring chicken.

In any case you can’t get beaten up by the only real fighter on your resume and say he has a better resume because he was knocked out

Can you please find two losses to fury on wilder box rec https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468841

Because I missed it

[Blackstarr]

Okay, so 41 year old Wlad is actually a better opponent than Fury, who is in his prime and won a near shutout against that same Wlad right before Joshua fought him. Totally makes sense.

If AJ beats Fury, it will be his career defining win up to this point by a wide margin. Are you seriously disagreeing with that?

I fully disagree with it if I’m completely honest with you. AJ’s win against a HOF and arguably ATG heavyweight in front of 90,000 fans was what catapulted him into superstardom and the biggest money generator in boxing today alongside Canelo and Pacquiao.

Compare Klitschko’s body of work to Fury’s and tell me who ranks better historically at this very moment in time? Fury’s career isn’t yet over so this could all change, but right now the Klitschko win is more career defining.

[Blackstarr]

Klitschko chin is suspect. He was washed when AJ fought him. Wilder would've blasted that guy out in 7

So why didn’t he then? Wilder’s management were busy crying that he shouldn’t be rushed into fighting Klitschko, only for Fury to beat him in the very same year, so gtfoh with that nonsense.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

[Noelanthony]

Can you please find two losses to fury on wilder box rec https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468841

Because I missed it

What a clown you actually responded .lol ok he was gifted a draw if that makes you sleep more soundly at night but was brutally stopped in the rematch due to costume malfunction