Comments Thread For: Povetkin-Whyte Rematch Eyed For November 14 or 21, Says Hearn

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  • VatoMulatto
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    #31
    Originally posted by Silver Spear
    He would not just be beating the man who beat him, he would be beating a 41 year old. How is that an accomplishment? Whyte needs to make a statement. He needs to do more than just win, he needs to show the other HW that he still means business and has what it takes to be at the top. Winning is one thing, how you won is another. Whyte needs to prove to his promoter, the fans, the boxing organizations that he is still a top contender. Losing to an old man in the fashion that he did is not a good look unless he comes back and proves it was a fluke. Look at what AJ did in his rematch with Ruiz. He did not convince a lot of people that he should still be regarded as #1.
    What AJ did was really good. He won the fight easily and got back on track. Povetkin being 41 doesn't matter. He's still a good fighter and far from a push over. I accept another tough fight but the only statement Whyte needs to do is prove he can return to the ring and win. How he wins doesn't matter. Winning ugly is better than taking another loss.

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    • Zelda
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      #32
      Unfair for Povetkin to return to camp so early and at this age. He could wear himself out before the rematch. It is quite demanding of a man his age to have a quick turnaround time for a rematch. Ideally, it suits Povetkin to have the rematch in Feb/Mar. This will give him time to rest his body for starting a camp and enough time for Whyte to gain weight and lose it (again).

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      • MANNY67
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        #33
        Originally posted by observer
        How did Povetkin 'make sure' Dillian stayed down? You make it sound like Povetkin started finishing him on the ground MMA style
        The fight I watched I didn’t see Dillian get up he got ktfo I don’t know what fight you watched

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        • SN!PER
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          #34
          Povetkin will get him even faster the second time.

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          • Tbone27
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            #35
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto
            Really? What makes you think he has a suspect chin??
            Whyte got badly KO'd by Joshua and Povetkin and there is a very high likelihood Parker and Rivas would've finished him if the ref wasn't on his side. You don't think it's fair to say a guy who has 2 KO losses on his record and was seconds away from being KO'd in 2 other fights has a suspect chin?

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            • Superbee
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              #36
              Originally posted by SN!PER
              Povetkin will get him even faster the second time.

              Yup... Povetkin has a great ring I.Q. ... He'll learn from his early mistakes in the 1st fight and will go for Whyte's flaws early... Hope the fraud will retire after that other embarrassment ....

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              • Toffee
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                #37
                Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
                I don't watch tennis so I don't give a damn about your example but I guess Gatti-Ward, Holyfield-Bowe, Ali-Frazier, Morales-Barrea, Vazquez-Marquez and so forth should've never happened either by your example.

                Joshua got knocked out and quit doesn't get anymore dominating than that. Ruiz went in as the champion during the 2nd fight so what is your point? If that's the case then shouldn't Andy get the opportunity to try and "outbox" Joshua like Anthony did to him. It's 1-1 Andy had the more dominating win but it doesn't matter AJ is just holding those belts for the winner of Fury-Wilder, Ruiz will get another shot eventually.
                You're talking about classic trilogies there... Where both fighters put on a great show and a trilogy was both warranted and financially supported.

                Should Lewis have given McCall a third fight? Again, boxing isn't a best of three sport.

                Andy showed up fat, out of shape, and relinquished his titles to a man who absolutely outboxed him for 12 rounds. Never mind a title fight, I think any promoter will have doubts about giving him a halfway decent fight. You can't charge big money for a bloke who may not even bother to train.

                Your 'more dominating win' theory isn't based in facts either. Plenty would disagree with your opinion that a knockout beats a boxing lesson.

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                • VatoMulatto
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tbone27
                  Whyte got badly KO'd by Joshua and Povetkin and there is a very high likelihood Parker and Rivas would've finished him if the ref wasn't on his side. You don't think it's fair to say a guy who has 2 KO losses on his record and was seconds away from being KO'd in 2 other fights has a suspect chin?
                  Not at all. He got badly KO'd because he was caught with huge punches he never saw coming. Parker dropped him because Whyte was exhausted in the last round. Nothing suspect about his chin. Whyte can take a punch.

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                  • Kannabis Kid
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Toffee
                    You're talking about classic trilogies there... Where both fighters put on a great show and a trilogy was both warranted and financially supported.

                    Should Lewis have given McCall a third fight? Again, boxing isn't a best of three sport.

                    Andy showed up fat, out of shape, and relinquished his titles to a man who absolutely outboxed him for 12 rounds. Never mind a title fight, I think any promoter will have doubts about giving him a halfway decent fight. You can't charge big money for a bloke who may not even bother to train.

                    Your 'more dominating win' theory isn't based in facts either. Plenty would disagree with your opinion that a knockout beats a boxing lesson.
                    Barrera outboxed Morales in the 2nd fight yet they fought again Morales outboxed Pacquiao thoroughly in the first fight yet they fought again and Pacquiao went to knock him out in the rematch and then they still fought once more lol. Marquez boxed Pacquiao up all the fights and they still kept going your point isn't valid about warranted rematches.

                    We could also use Casamayor-Corrales as a good example Diego got TKOed in the first fight came back to win a SD could have stopped like Joshua and just moved on but he was a throwback fighter and still went on to give Casamayor a third fight where he ended up losing they only became "Classic Trilogies" like you say because they were true fighters and they were willing to fight unlike the divas of today built up by media.

                    You forget they only picked Andy because he was fat in the first place and thought it was an easy win for AJ's American debut. You also really used Lewis-McCall as an example that makes no sense when the *** was Andy crying and refusing to fight? Andy has shown up fat to every fight and even fatter in the past over 300lbs and the networks had no problem putting him on it's just another AJ excuse I know you're British so of course you are going to defend Joshua at any cost because you know it's still a dangerous fight. No financial backing? Andy has the Mexican fanbase if they fought in the states it would sell out but Joshua has MSG nightmares still and from now on we will only see him fight in the UK, UAE or Saudi.

                    Again how is getting a boring UD not even engaging and really stepping on it to show your the champion more dominating then getting dropped 4 times and refusing to leave the corner that's about as dominating as it gets of course you can pull another 101 excuses out depression,concussion, anxiety whatever the *** it was he lost and in terrible fashion when you go to DAZN on YouTube check how many views Ruiz KO highlight against AJ has and then go see how many views the rematch has I dont even have to check to know it's way more that just shows the impression both fights left people lie numbers don't.
                    Last edited by Kannabis Kid; 09-04-2020, 11:30 PM.

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