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  • #81
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    Fury was bouncing on his toes way too much in the first fight without throwing and landing many punches to justify a victory over Wilder and the judges got right. He didn't want to engage "The Bronze Bomber for fear of being of chinned by him. He was simply playing keep away, while running out the clock in the process.
    Too bad the boxing media - writers/analysts/commentators/former fighters don’t agree with ur miniority opinion!!! Fury came straight at Wilder, put him on his bak foot, then on his ass in the 2nd fight and left no doubt with that “throw in the towel “ straight azz whipping!!!!!

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    • #82
      Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
      Too bad the boxing media - writers/analysts/commentators/former fighters don’t agree with ur miniority opinion!!! Fury came straight at Wilder, put him on his bak foot, then on his ass in the 2nd fight and left no doubt with that “throw in the towel “ straight azz whipping!!!!!
      Why couldn't he do that in the first fight? I am listening! I'll answer it for you. He was afraid.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Why couldn't he do that in the first fight? I am listening! I'll answer it for you. He was afraid.
        obviously bc Fury knew he could easily outbox the overrated hype job that is Wilder !! U make a lot of sense...afraid in the 1st fight but goes out and does exactly wat he said he was going to do in the 2nd - go forward and Ko Wilder so the judges would not rob him again!!!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          I don't dispute anything you've just said but it is what it is. If you are going take the title away from the champion then you have to be more active and show the judges that you really want it; Otherwise, they are not going to give it to you.

          Actually, I originally scored the fight for Fury until I rewatched the knockdown and as I was counting I've noticed that Jack Reiss slow count was about a split second off. Wilder should have been the rightful winner of that fight by way of KO.

          It shouldn't have never gone to judges in the first place.
          Exactly, a split second off lol human beings can't count in nanoseconds, so no count is ever ten seconds. They pick up the count from the timekeeper then finish the count as best they can. A nine second or even a twelve second count is more than acceptable. This wasn't a Buster Douglas situation where the count was like five or six seconds out, which is completely unacceptable.

          Saying the count has to be exactly ten seconds is unrealistic. If your reasoning is sticking to the rules by the letter, then it still wouldn't have been a KO; Wilder left the neutral corner for a couple of seconds to gloat and showboat, which, per the unified rules of boxing, the referee should immediately stop the count until the opponent is back in a neutral corner, which would have gave Fury a perfectly legitimate thirteen second count lol

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          • #85
            Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
            obviously bc Fury knew he could easily outbox the overrated hype job that is Wilder !! U make a lot of sense...afraid in the 1st fight but goes out and does exactly wat he said he was going to do in the 2nd - go forward and Ko Wilder so the judges would not rob him again!!!
            Well then, I have another question for you. Where did this new found power come from all of a sudden? He never exhibited it before in the past; Hmmmmm! It makes you wonder and very curious.

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            • #86
              Isn’t Mayweather training Wilder?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
                Exactly, a split second off lol human beings can't count in nanoseconds, so no count is ever ten seconds. They pick up the count from the timekeeper then finish the count as best they can. A nine second or even a twelve second count is more than acceptable. This wasn't a Buster Douglas situation where the count was like five or six seconds out, which is completely unacceptable.

                Saying the count has to be exactly ten seconds is unrealistic. If your reasoning is sticking to the rules by the letter, then it still wouldn't have been a KO; Wilder left the neutral corner for a couple of seconds to gloat and showboat, which, per the unified rules of boxing, the referee should immediately stop the count until the opponent is back in a neutral corner, which would have gave Fury a perfectly legitimate thirteen second count lol
                Wilder was on his way to the corner the moment he dropped Fury in the 12th. You are right. He did beat the ref's ten count but it was not a ten second count. You know what; That's neither here or there.

                Wilder made a huge mistake by fighting Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz in the first place because if a man pops dirty for cheating once; Then chances are they would do it again in the future. What guarantee that you have that they wouldn't do it again; None?

                You just can't trust opponents like that. None of the all-time greats ever popped dirty for doping or juicing. They all had reputations for being clean fighters. We are living in a very sad state of affairs where cats have this urgent need to take shortcuts to glory by cheating.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  Well then, I have another question for you. Where did this new found power come from all of a sudden? He never exhibited it before in the past; Hmmmmm! It makes you wonder and very curious.
                  will put that with the BS long count .....and if u believe ur hero Wilder - it was the heavy costume that whipped his azz!!!!!LOL!!! theres ur answer - straight from ur hero's mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Wilder was on his way to the corner the moment he dropped Fury in the 12th. You are right. He did beat the ref's ten count but it was not a ten second count. You know what; That's neither here or there.

                    Wilder made a huge mistake by fighting Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz in the first place because if a man pops dirty for cheating once; Then chances are they would do it again in the future. What guarantee that you have that they wouldn't do it again; None?

                    You just can't trust opponents like that. None of the all-time greats ever popped dirty for doping or juicing. They all had reputations for being clean fighters. We are living in a very sad state of affairs where cats have this urgent need to take shortcuts to glory by cheating.
                    Dont b curious or wonder about ped cheats - straight from ur defeated hero's mouth - the oh so heavy pre-fight costume whipped his azz!!! THEN it was the Breland conspiracy theory....the corrupt ref....anything to justify the "throw in the towel" beatdown by Fury!!!!!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      Wilder was on his way to the corner the moment he dropped Fury in the 12th. You are right. He did beat the ref's ten count but it was not a ten second count. You know what; That's neither here or there.

                      Wilder made a huge mistake by fighting Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz in the first place because if a man pops dirty for cheating once; Then chances are they would do it again in the future. What guarantee that you have that they wouldn't do it again; None?

                      You just can't trust opponents like that. None of the all-time greats ever popped dirty for doping or juicing. They all had reputations for being clean fighters. We are living in a very sad state of affairs where cats have this urgent need to take shortcuts to glory by cheating.
                      Yea he went to the neutral corner but started walking away, doing a little jig and blowing kisses to the crowd as Reiss was issuing the count lol ten seconds is irrelevant, it's the referee's count that matters.

                      The whole "they popped dirty so many years ago" is also irrelevant. They were clean for the fights in question. And to think the ATGs weren't juicing is very naive lol how long has the testing been so stringent? 10, 15, maybe 20 years at a stretch? The only reason more people get caught in this day and age is due to advances in technology.

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