Comments Thread For: Hearn Expects Tyson Fury To 'School' Deontay Wilder in Trilogy

[champion4ever]

oh no - not the long count excuse AGAIN...the flu, the heavy costume, the dirty tactics by Fury......pathetic and weak ...”many people” must mean all whining Wilder fans...bc almost All experts, insiders, writers, commentators don’t believe the BS long count excuse...and believe Fury WON the 1st fight!!

Fury was bouncing on his toes way too much in the first fight without throwing and landing many punches to justify a victory over Wilder and the judges got right. He didn't want to engage "The Bronze Bomber for fear of being of chinned by him. He was simply playing keep away, while running out the clock in the process.

[Squared.Circle]

There was never a full flush full power punch like when for example Chisora laid out Takam or Whyte laid out CHisora or even Povetkin laid out Whyte.

You are def over estimating Fury's ability to take a punch. It is average if the Cunnigham fight is anything to go by. Fury just doesn't get hit that much. Whyte took Povetkin's punches until the big one landed full on flush.

Wilder said he had flu for the first Ortiz fight and said he had flu when he drew with Fury and his costume was too heavy for the 2nd Fury fight. C'mon man these are all legit excuses! What if he loses to his daughter on Playstation the night before and feels a bit down. Does that count as a good excuse?

He really did land solid right hands in the first few rounds of the second fight though. Flush. The majority of punches Wilder actually managed to land were as Fury was turning his head away which lessened the impact, but there were definitely two or three that landed flush, and just bounced off.

As for the Cunningham knockdown, that was a case of a perfect punch catching Fury while his feet were in a bad position. If you watch that back you'll see his back foot is on his toes (almost completely off the canvas) as he was moving backwards. That was balance, not durability. Throughout his career Fury has probably taken more solid shots from legitimate heavyweights than AJ and Wilder combined. As well as the fact he took Wilder's best, one of which was **** on the side of the head as Fury was already going down, maximising the impact. Fury definitely has one of the best chins there is.

At least "my daughter beat me on the PlayStation last night, I was still mad about it today, that's why I lost", is a more believable excuse than "my Black Panther outfit was too heavy"

The whole thing about Fury "got up fine from the knockdown in the first fight" is just weird if you know boxing. People get up from knockdowns in one fight but not the next. It all depends on millimetres and where the punch lands, how thick your skull is etc. It's not a skill you can learn. There's an element of willpower to getting up but if your brain is not connecting with your limbs you just cant do it. Not to mention the ref usually waves off peopel straight away when they are prone like that. So some luck involved for sure.

Well if Fury and Wilder fought 10 times I think Fury would win 7 of them and Wilder 3. So if Fury has already won 2 fights (According to Fury fans) then it's just got more likely Widler will win the 3rd fight. That's logic. Plus the more time you spend in with the biggest puncher in the division the more likely he will catch you full on.

The knockdown I'm referring to in the first fight was the first one. I was comparing it to Fury's knockdown over Wilder; (a lot of) people saying that Fury hit him behind the head, which was an "illegal punch", causing Wilder to become discombobulated and took his ability to recover. It is literally the same shot Wilder caught Fury with in the first fight, yet he got up fine and continued to outbox Wilder. Who exactly is supposed to be the feather fisted fighter out of the two? Lol

I'd have to disagree with your Fury winning ratio. I'd say Fury wins 29 times out of 30; the one that Wilder wins is the occasion that Fury comes in too complacent. As for the more Fury is in the ring with Wilder, I'd say it becomes less likely that Wilder lands his punch. He's proven countless times he can't fight off the back foot or deal very well with pressure, so I doubt Fury will make the same mistakes as he did in the first fight; fighting off the back foot, trying to duck while standing stationary directly in front of Wilder.

People talk a lot about blueprints to beat a fighter. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. But in Wilder's case, I think it's true. A strong fighter of equal size to Wilder with solid power and decent speed that can pressure him and back him up will get the same result as Fury.

[Squared.Circle]

Fury was bouncing on his toes way too much in the first fight without throwing and landing many punches to justify a victory over Wilder and the judges got right. He didn't want to engage "The Bronze Bomber for fear of being of chinned by him. He was simply playing keep away, while running out the clock in the process.

Effective defence gains more credit than ineffective aggression. You could hardly split punches landed in the first fight, so you can't score it on punches landed. Wilder was the "aggressor" but for the most part was completely ineffective due to Fury's defence. And besides the obvious, Fury landed the more eye catching blows. Hence why the majority are in agreement, Fury outboxed Wilder with ease and more than deserved the win.

Let's have it right, Wilder and his team even knew they lost lol watch the replay of the announcement; Fury looks disappointed, Wilder looks relieved. On top of that...two members of Wilder's team can be seen in the background jumping with joy with their hand raised in the air...at a draw!!!! LOL says it all.

Oh yea, and then there's the fact that Breland did an interview for one of these YouTubers and literally said "Wilder abandoned the game plan by the third round, he just stood there and watched Fury beat him". That speaks volumes.

[LoadedWraps]

He did KO him. It's all a matter of interpretation. Many believed he was actually KO but was the beneficiary of a long count by a partial referee.

Had their first fight would have convened in either Nevada or New York he would have been counted out or waved off. Let Wilder drop him like that again and we will be witnessing the new WBC world heavyweight champion.

Interpretation?



You're either out or you're not bro.

And it was not a long count.

And the ref was not biased, he was clear with his instructions in the dressing rooms and he followed them to the T.

[PRINCEKOOL]

He really did land solid right hands in the first few rounds of the second fight though. Flush. The majority of punches Wilder actually managed to land were as Fury was turning his head away which lessened the impact, but there were definitely two or three that landed flush, and just bounced off.

As for the Cunningham knockdown, that was a case of a perfect punch catching Fury while his feet were in a bad position. If you watch that back you'll see his back foot is on his toes (almost completely off the canvas) as he was moving backwards. That was balance, not durability. Throughout his career Fury has probably taken more solid shots from legitimate heavyweights than AJ and Wilder combined. As well as the fact he took Wilder's best, one of which was **** on the side of the head as Fury was already going down, maximising the impact. Fury definitely has one of the best chins there is.

At least "my daughter beat me on the PlayStation last night, I was still mad about it today, that's why I lost", is a more believable excuse than "my Black Panther outfit was too heavy"



The knockdown I'm referring to in the first fight was the first one. I was comparing it to Fury's knockdown over Wilder; (a lot of) people saying that Fury hit him behind the head, which was an "illegal punch", causing Wilder to become discombobulated and took his ability to recover. It is literally the same shot Wilder caught Fury with in the first fight, yet he got up fine and continued to outbox Wilder. Who exactly is supposed to be the feather fisted fighter out of the two? Lol

I'd have to disagree with your Fury winning ratio. I'd say Fury wins 29 times out of 30; the one that Wilder wins is the occasion that Fury comes in too complacent. As for the more Fury is in the ring with Wilder, I'd say it becomes less likely that Wilder lands his punch. He's proven countless times he can't fight off the back foot or deal very well with pressure, so I doubt Fury will make the same mistakes as he did in the first fight; fighting off the back foot, trying to duck while standing stationary directly in front of Wilder.

People talk a lot about blueprints to beat a fighter. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. But in Wilder's case, I think it's true. A strong fighter of equal size to Wilder with solid power and decent speed that can pressure him and back him up will get the same result as Fury.

Tyson Fury STILL has to maintain near perfection execution to win a rematch 'According to you then?'

I don't think he does, because Wilder hit Fury in the rematch 'And Fury seemed to deal with his power'.

Fury is the first heavyweight in my opinion, to make Wilder doubt his own power etc

[Squared.Circle]

Tyson Fury STILL has to maintain near perfection execution to win a rematch 'According to you then?'

I don't think he does, because Wilder hit Fury in the rematch 'And Fury seemed to deal with his power'.

Fury is the first heavyweight in my opinion, to make Wilder doubt his own power etc

Your quotation 'marks are a bit confusing' lol

No I'm not saying Fury has to be perfect to beat Wilder. He wasn't perfect in the first fight and still beat him.

Fury can definitely take Wilder's power.

I think 'you might have misunderstood' what I said lol

[PRINCEKOOL]

Your quotation 'marks are a bit confusing' lol

No I'm not saying Fury has to be perfect to beat Wilder. He wasn't perfect in the first fight and still beat him.

Fury can definitely take Wilder's power.

I think 'you might have misunderstood' what I said lol

I am going to be straight up honest with you? I did not read all of your post 'I already wanted to ask you or some Fury fan that question'.

I am not so sure, Wilder can blast Fury out with a single shot 'Long as Fury is braced for the shot etc'.

I also don't think Wilder has the sophistication to hit Fury with a shot 'That he is completely unaware of' i.e Like Povetkin's uppercut against Whyte.

I will read the rest of your post now.

[LoadedWraps]

Tyson Fury STILL has to maintain near perfection execution to win a rematch 'According to you then?'

I don't think he does, because Wilder hit Fury in the rematch 'And Fury seemed to deal with his power'.

Fury is the first heavyweight in my opinion, to make Wilder doubt his own power etc

I agree, I think Wilder is genuinely out of answers and this actually makes the 3rd fight interesting because he kind of has to swing for the fences. Force a war where at least you may land a prayer trading shots. I still see Wilder losing that fight but for a fan, it would be spectacular.

[champion4ever]

Effective defence gains more credit than ineffective aggression. You could hardly split punches landed in the first fight, so you can't score it on punches landed. Wilder was the "aggressor" but for the most part was completely ineffective due to Fury's defence. And besides the obvious, Fury landed the more eye catching blows. Hence why the majority are in agreement, Fury outboxed Wilder with ease and more than deserved the win.

Let's have it right, Wilder and his team even knew they lost lol watch the replay of the announcement; Fury looks disappointed, Wilder looks relieved. On top of that...two members of Wilder's team can be seen in the background jumping with joy with their hand raised in the air...at a draw!!!! LOL says it all.

Oh yea, and then there's the fact that Breland did an interview for one of these YouTubers and literally said "Wilder abandoned the game plan by the third round, he just stood there and watched Fury beat him". That speaks volumes.

I don't dispute anything you've just said but it is what it is. If you are going take the title away from the champion then you have to be more active and show the judges that you really want it; Otherwise, they are not going to give it to you.

Actually, I originally scored the fight for Fury until I rewatched the knockdown and as I was counting I've noticed that Jack Reiss slow count was about a split second off. Wilder should have been the rightful winner of that fight by way of KO.

It shouldn't have never gone to judges in the first place.

[champion4ever]

Interpretation?



You're either out or you're not bro.

And it was not a long count.

And the ref was not biased, he was clear with his instructions in the dressing rooms and he followed them to the T.

There is video evidence proving that Fury did not beat a ten second count. Yes, you are right he did beat the referee's ten count but that was just a ten count and not an actual ten second count.