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  • #91
    Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
    Yea he went to the neutral corner but started walking away, doing a little jig and blowing kisses to the crowd as Reiss was issuing the count lol ten seconds is irrelevant, it's the referee's count that matters.

    The whole "they popped dirty so many years ago" is also irrelevant. They were clean for the fights in question. And to think the ATGs weren't juicing is very naive lol how long has the testing been so stringent? 10, 15, maybe 20 years at a stretch? The only reason more people get caught in this day and age is due to advances in technology.
    Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
    Dont b curious or wonder about ped cheats - straight from ur defeated hero's mouth - the oh so heavy pre-fight costume whipped his azz!!! THEN it was the Breland conspiracy theory....the corrupt ref....anything to justify the "throw in the towel" beatdown by Fury!!!!!
    I'm sorry but it says a lot about their character and integrity. Once a cheat is always a cheat. You can't put anything past them or what they would do in order to gain an unfair edge or advantage. Especially, if that fighter has a long and dubious track record of breaking the rules. Besides, there are other ways of cheating other than juicing.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
      will put that with the BS long count .....and if u believe ur hero Wilder - it was the heavy costume that whipped his azz!!!!!LOL!!! theres ur answer - straight from ur hero's mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      I don't know man. It looked awfully questionable and su****ious to me.

      After all, I did hear him say he was dipping his hand in petroleum which raises a red flag. What good would petroleum do with a pair of padded boxing gloves on? That's an old trick that bare knuckle brawlers used back in the past and many still do to this very day.

      I am not saying that Fury did it or didn't do it. All I am saying is the whole thing looks totally out of the ordinary to me.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        I'm sorry but it says a lot about their character and integrity. Once a cheat is always a cheat. You can't put anything past them or what they would do in order to gain an unfair edge or advantage. Especially, if that fighter has a long and dubious track record of breaking the rules. Besides, there are other ways of cheating other than juicing.
        But it's all irrelevant as Fury beat Wilder fair and square. And his "long track record" consists of a suspect doping violation (if it was so clear cut, UKAD wouldn't have had to "come to an agreement" of a back dated suspension, nearly two years later) and a detached thumb on a glove. It's hardly a track record.

        All these conspiracy theories and the crying about Fury having elevated levels of nandrolone five years ago are simply attempts to try and validate Wilder's embarrassing loss and discredit Fury's win. Wilder was completely outclassed and overwhelmed from start to finish. No PEDs, no tampered gloves, just an all round better boxer dominating every second.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          I don't know man. It looked awfully questionable and su****ious to me.

          After all, I did hear him say he was dipping his hand in petroleum which raises a red flag. What good would petroleum do with a pair of padded boxing gloves on? That's an old trick that bare knuckle brawlers used back in the past and many still do to this very day.

          I am not saying that Fury did it or didn't do it. All I am saying is the whole thing looks totally out of the ordinary to me.
          Baha you answered your own su****ion; he was talking about his bare hands during training. His grandad was known to do it and probably his dad too. Use a bit of logic; firstly, when would Fury have had the chance to pour petrol into a bowl and dip his gloves in without anybody noticing? Secondly, even if he did somehow dip his gloves in petrol (which he obviously didn't lol), his gloves would have stunk of it. Anybody that got close would have smelt it lol

          Dipping his gloves in petrol whats next? His gloves were laced with sleeping pills so every time Fury ****** Wilder in the mouth it made him more sleepy and lethargic? dipping his gloves in petrol

          The whole thing looks out of the ordinary because you're looking for something out of the ordinary. The only thing out of the ordinary is a 6'9 giant with a far superior skill set to almost every heavyweight on the planet.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
            But it's all irrelevant as Fury beat Wilder fair and square. And his "long track record" consists of a suspect doping violation (if it was so clear cut, UKAD wouldn't have had to "come to an agreement" of a back dated suspension, nearly two years later) and a detached thumb on a glove. It's hardly a track record.

            All these conspiracy theories and the crying about Fury having elevated levels of nandrolone five years ago are simply attempts to try and validate Wilder's embarrassing loss and discredit Fury's win. Wilder was completely outclassed and overwhelmed from start to finish. No PEDs, no tampered gloves, just an all round better boxer dominating every second.
            Look, I am willing to give Tyson Fury his presumption of innocence and the benefit of the doubt. He is innocent until proven guilty. I can't prove whether or not he cheated that night. I need more facts.

            While, I remain very steadfast in my disbelief and skepticism about his innocence; However and yet at the same time I can not produce any evidence to suggest that he is not innocent. It's because for the simple fact that I wasn't present in his camp or dressing room.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
              Baha you answered your own su****ion; he was talking about his bare hands during training. His grandad was known to do it and probably his dad too. Use a bit of logic; firstly, when would Fury have had the chance to pour petrol into a bowl and dip his gloves in without anybody noticing? Secondly, even if he did somehow dip his gloves in petrol (which he obviously didn't lol), his gloves would have stunk of it. Anybody that got close would have smelt it lol

              Dipping his gloves in petrol whats next? His gloves were laced with sleeping pills so every time Fury ****** Wilder in the mouth it made him more sleepy and lethargic? dipping his gloves in petrol

              The whole thing looks out of the ordinary because you're looking for something out of the ordinary. The only thing out of the ordinary is a 6'9 giant with a far superior skill set to almost every heavyweight on the planet.
              In the video below: Tyson Fury admitted from his own lips to dipping has hands in petroleum for at least five minutes a day for about 3 to 4 weeks out from the fight in order to toughen them up. He said he learned it from a traveling bare knuckle brawler.

              So my question is, what does bare knuckle brawling has to do with boxing? Also, what are the benefits of a boxer dipping his hands in petroleum for a boxing match with padded gloves on because Tyson Fury is not a bare knuckle brawler?

              Unless he was planning on having padding removed from his gloves where he could use his bare knuckle fists as weapons. Now don't jump to conclusions and get me wrong.

              I am not saying that he is guilty. He is innocent but it does give one pause for concern and say hmm; Because this sounds very dodgy at best. This video has been timestamped at 10:42.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                In the video below: Tyson Fury admitted from his own lips to dipping has hands in petroleum for at least five minutes a day for about 3 to 4 weeks out from the fight in order to toughen them up. He said he learned it from a traveling bare knuckle brawler.

                So my question is, what does bare knuckle brawling has to do with boxing? Also, what are the benefits of a boxer dipping his hands in petroleum for a boxing match with padded gloves on because Tyson Fury is not a bare knuckle brawler?

                Unless he was planning on having padding removed from his gloves where he could use his bare knuckle fists as weapons. Now don't jump to conclusions and get me wrong.

                I am not saying that he is guilty. He is innocent but it does give one pause for concern and say hmm; Because this sounds very dodgy at best. This video has been timestamped at 10:42.
                It literally gives no pause for concern lol it gives pause for a chuckle or two, that's about it. It's advice from a thick as pig shít ***** to a not very well educated *****. Soaking your hands in petrol or some other substances is to force the hand, particularly the knuckles, to grow more layers of skin to try and prevent cuts (I doubt if it's scientifically accurate, but that's the reasoning behind it). Divy Joe Joyce obviously thinks it makes your hands harder, because he's a thick as pig shít *****, and Fury believed him, because he's a not very well educated *****. So if anything, in Fury's mind, his hands will be like stone. If there's a more solid structure underneath the wraps and gloves then the impact of a blow will be much higher.

                You may not have been in Fury's dressing room, but WBC representatives and members of the athletic commission were. You might not have, but the athletic commission inspected his gloves post fight. There's no mystery surrounding the padding in Fury's gloves. It was there lol

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                • #98



                  Furys hands were dipped in gasoline now?

                  Ahh, the legend grows...

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
                    It literally gives no pause for concern lol it gives pause for a chuckle or two, that's about it. It's advice from a thick as pig shít ***** to a not very well educated *****. Soaking your hands in petrol or some other substances is to force the hand, particularly the knuckles, to grow more layers of skin to try and prevent cuts (I doubt if it's scientifically accurate, but that's the reasoning behind it). Divy Joe Joyce obviously thinks it makes your hands harder, because he's a thick as pig shít *****, and Fury believed him, because he's a not very well educated *****. So if anything, in Fury's mind, his hands will be like stone. If there's a more solid structure underneath the wraps and gloves then the impact of a blow will be much higher.

                    You may not have been in Fury's dressing room, but WBC representatives and members of the athletic commission were. You might not have, but the athletic commission inspected his gloves post fight. There's no mystery surrounding the padding in Fury's gloves. It was there lol
                    That's your opinion and I respect it. Even though, I don't agree with it. He is innocent because he has never been proven guilty. Therefore, the case is closed. However, I still remain staunchly cynical and skeptical about his innocence.

                    There is just too much circumstantial evidence for me to personally exonerate him of all wrong doing. While I don't believe he is innocent, however since all the evidence has been destroyed; There is just not enough scientific proof or evidence to suggest that he is indeed guilty of cheating.

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                    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      That's your opinion and I respect it. Even though, I don't agree with it. He is innocent because he has never been proven guilty. Therefore, the case is closed. However, I still remain staunchly cynical and skeptical about his innocence.

                      There is just too much circumstantial evidence for me to personally exonerate him of all wrong doing. While I don't believe he is innocent, however since all the evidence has been destroyed; There is just not enough scientific proof or evidence to suggest that he is indeed guilty of cheating.
                      The evidence of any su****ion surrounding the padding in Fury's gloves were handed to the athletic commission; the gloves. The evidence that there was no wrong doing comes from the athletic commission in the form of no official statement. If there was any issue whatsoever, the athletic commission would have said and more likely than not criminal charges would have been filed.

                      The whole "Fury somehow repeatedly moved his fist into the wrist area of his glove, and back up again" (kind of funny how it's shifted from that universally held conspiracy theory) was more credible than no padding. There were too many checks (Athletic commission before the fight, referee at the start of the fight, athletic commission after the fight) and literally no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.

                      Fury's innocence is not presumed, it's proven. There's no guilt to be proved, it's assumed by people that bought into the godly myth of Wilder and are still shell shocked, looking for answers of how and why lol

                      The conspiracy theories of Fury cheating against Wilder are like flat earth or nanothermite taking down the towers on 9/11; best kept to yourself to save any embarrassment

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