Why is Crawford not held to the same standard as other 'P4P' fighters?

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  • RL_GMA
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    #21
    I think fans in general are just getting frustrated with the lack of quality opposition he's faced since being at Welterweight which is going on 3 years now. Even his hardcore fans are beginning to shrug their shoulders let alone Crawford seems OK with it, no sense of urgency. Truth is, he's going to be 33 without a "Marquee" fight under his belt. I posed the question about when his contract would be up to free him to fight Al's guys BUT if he re-ups with Top Rank I think it's safe to say that ship might be headed to dock without any passengers if that makes any sense. People can't expect him to fight C level talent then all of a sudden landing the Spence fight.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxxymcboxface
      Because he fights bums and only bums
      Blame his promoter Bob Arum. Crawford made a huge mistake signing with Top Rank.

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      • Scopedog
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        #23
        I think you've got to give him a certain amount of the benefit of the doubt, because he's been caught up in boxing politics and it's clear the other top fighters at the weight don't seem eager to fight him. That said at some point something's got to give and he and/or Arum will have to make some kind of concession to get those guys into the ring with him. Unfortunately, if his reluctance to fight for less money during the pandemic is anything to go by he might not be willing to make that concession. IMO his skillset is #1 p4p calibre, but right now Loma is clearly beating him thanks to his superior record. However, even if his resume isn't what it could be, the manner in which he wins is pretty much always very impressive, which is something that not all of the top fighters can say. That's probably the one thing that's keeping him from slipping any lower than #2 for me right now, though that could change soon if Canelo comes up with another impressive win and Crawford stays inactive in the near future.

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        • Dean_Razorback
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          #24
          there are people on this site calling lomachenko a hype job, and they are serious about it, yet crawford is the number 1 p4p fighter for many and hasn't fought anyone, i also find it baffling

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            #25
            Originally posted by Doubledagger
            There is no fighter with less than 20 fights who has more accomplishments than Crawford GTFOH!

            In fact there is no active fighter besides Manny with more accomplishments than Crawford.

            Unified champion at 135

            Undisputed champion at 140.

            Champion at 147 and he beat the man who beat the man too.

            No one has accomplished more than that that isn't named Manny Pacquiao.

            People criticise his resume but those guys he beat at 140 were undefeated or unified champions at the time.

            Nobody was calling those fights cherry picks when they happened.

            It's like when people try to sell Trout short as an opponent, people forget that when Canelo beat him he was undefeated and had just beaten and schooled the man at 154 at the time.

            Crawford has accomplished more than your favorite guy if your favorite guy ain't Manny.
            he wasn't unified at 135, he was only the wbo champion and for some reason they gave him the ring magazine belt and made him lineal (or undisputed i don't remember). at that weight class, his best win was gamboa who is a short fat feather weight, same gamboa who was very inactive and was KO'd by someone like castellanos, so...

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            • FLY TY
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              #26
              Originally posted by Doubledagger
              There is no fighter with less than 20 fights who has more accomplishments than Crawford GTFOH!

              In fact there is no active fighter besides Manny with more accomplishments than Crawford.

              Unified champion at 135

              Undisputed champion at 140.

              Champion at 147 and he beat the man who beat the man too.

              No one has accomplished more than that that isn't named Manny Pacquiao.

              People criticise his resume but those guys he beat at 140 were undefeated or unified champions at the time.

              Nobody was calling those fights cherry picks when they happened.

              It's like when people try to sell Trout short as an opponent, people forget that when Canelo beat him he was undefeated and had just beaten and schooled the man at 154 at the time.

              Crawford has accomplished more than your favorite guy if your favorite guy ain't Manny.
              All that said, there is not 1 hall of famer or p4p fighter for that matter on the dudes resume. Nobody can knock his accomplishments, but I get the criticisms of who he had to go through to get those accomplishments.

              Even the biggest Bud nuthuggers know deep down inside the dude's resume is paper thin.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #27
                Originally posted by John Locke
                But who has he beat? Look who he beat to clean out the divisions.

                The only respectable wins on Crawford's resume for me are Postol and Diaz and neither of those are world beaters.



                Yaaaawn. Usyk has cleared out cruiser in less fights, Lomachenko after 3 fights had a better resume than Crawford has RIGHT NOW, Inoue has a better resume less than 20 fights, you want me to keep going?
                I get it, it’s not some stellar resume.

                But cleaning out 2 divisions is not an easy feat.

                He’s a legitimate 3 weight world champ. Lineal in 2.

                Surely that’s a good achievement.

                We’ve all seen how easy it is to tear down a resume in hindsight but at the time guys like Postol for example was considered a big win.

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                • cork
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                  #28
                  This one's easy. Cleaned out two division. Is trying to do the third but boxing politics.

                  This isn't canelo cherry picking to 4 division title. Not even remotely similar.

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                  • John Locke
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I get it, it’s not some stellar resume.

                    But cleaning out 2 divisions is not an easy feat.

                    He’s a legitimate 3 weight world champ. Lineal in 2.

                    Surely that’s a good achievement.

                    We’ve all seen how easy it is to tear down a resume in hindsight but at the time guys like Postol for example was considered a big win.
                    He was WBO champ at 135 bro, putting a fancy word in front of it doesn't impress me. Adrien Broner is a legitimate 4 division champ.

                    It's a good achievement for sure, what I'm saying is, a whole bunch of fighters would have the same record as him with the same opponents he's faced. He hasn't beaten any top fighters.

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                    • John Locke
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by cork
                      This one's easy. Cleaned out two division. Is trying to do the third but boxing politics.

                      This isn't canelo cherry picking to 4 division title. Not even remotely similar.
                      Canelo has beaten top level fighters man, there's no comparison

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