Comments Thread For: Kauffman: If I Lose To Wallin, I'm Retiring; His Claim To Fame Is Losing To Fury

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Yup just like McDermott took Furys you are making it seem like beating Chisora is something that is not common yeah Tyson did it first but it's not like Chisora went on to become a world champion or have some huge hot streak.

I'll give it to him he beat up Helenius and should have got the nod in the first Whyte fight but Whyte closed that chapter with a brutal knockout and well Helenius had his fair string of bad luck after that fight so it's safe to say that performance helped Chisora get his only title shot where he failed against Vitali but allowed him to propel him into getting some more paydays. I don't dislike Chisora either I just find it funny how you guys always put that up there as one of Furys good wins because he doesn't have many.

Chisora is headlining PPVs even now, and like you say, he beat the apparent #3 in the world, and he was beating him in the second fight as well until Hearn's ref started getting involved and taking away points unfairly.

I'm not claiming that he's a world beater, but he's a solid win and has proven that he's a tough night's work for anyone, unless your name is Tyson Fury.

Look at the way Fury dismantled him the second time, nobody does that.

[Tyistall]

He beat Chisora twice, and I think you'll find he didn't have 10 defeats then.Chisora is still better than everyone on Wilders record outside of Ortiz and Fury himself. Now, stop crying and save your fantasies for that other site you like to visit lol.

Wilder and Fury are both frauds with weak resumes. The only difference is Fury is a steroid cheat too. A steroid cheat who kisses grown men. And you support this????

[Kannabis Kid]

Chisora is headlining PPVs even now, and like you say, he beat the apparent #3 in the world, and he was beating him in the second fight as well until Hearn's ref started getting involved and taking away points unfairly.

I'm not claiming that he's a world beater, but he's a solid win and has proven that he's a tough night's work for anyone, unless your name is Tyson Fury.

Look at the way Fury dismantled him the second time, nobody does that.

I dont rate Dillian Whyte that high only you Brits do he is top 5 but he is knockout waiting to happen with his terrible stamina especially after he can't take his supplements anymore that's why he looked like a fat slob against slow ass Mariusz Wach he almost looked as fat as Chisora did when he fought Fury the 2nd time he talked all that garbage before the rematch only to come in grossly out of shape and QUIT on his stool that is why I don't call him Dereck War Chisora I call him Dereck Quit Chisora because he bottled it big time he lost that fight due to exhaustion from not being in shape nobodies fault but his own Tyson would have beat him anyways but just goes to show his character.

He's a tough fight for anyone not named Haye, Kabayel and Pulev also the same way he was winning the fight against Whyte the 2nd time before getting knocked out is exactly what happened to him against Carlos Takam he was getting his ass kicked that entire fight until he managed to pull off that hail mary shot.

[Squared.Circle]

More of the same old you just wrote me a paragraph on how much you love Fury he lost that fight plain and simple just like Mayweather lost against Castillo the only reason you think Fury won is because you are biased Bellend.

I can admit Fury beat Wilder in the first fight even though it should have been stopped but it wasn't and on the cards I thought he outboxed him I said that immediately after the fight even though I was pulling for Wilder it is what is sometimes your fighters lose whether it goes on the records or not Danny Garcia-Mauricio Herrera, Gabriel Campillo-Tavoris Cloud, Shawn Porter-Yordenis Ugas, the list goes on and on.

You can cry about this and cry about that and bring up as many irrelevant comparisons as you want, but when all is said and done, Fury is undefeated and remains the best heavyweight on the planet, regardless what your emotional disdain says lol

The fact that all the Fury haters try so hard to come up with something to discredit his standing just comes across as bitter. Still 30–0–1 and still a two-time heavyweight champion.

And just to clarify; I'm a Fury fan, but AJ is my favourite. So fail lol

[Kannabis Kid]

You can cry about this and cry about that and bring up as many irrelevant comparisons as you want, but when all is said and done, Fury is undefeated and remains the best heavyweight on the planet, regardless what your emotional disdain says lol

The fact that all the Fury haters try so hard to come up with something to discredit his standing just comes across as bitter. Still 30–0–1 and still a two-time heavyweight champion.

And just to clarify; I'm a Fury fan, but AJ is my favourite. So fail lol

AJ is the worst of them all ran for his life against Ruiz who was way out of shape. It's not irrelevant just not a lot of people bring it up kind of swept under the rug like his UK anti-doping violations people haven't seen the fight because they haven't kept up with Fury since the start only became a fan when he was on top not when he was uppercutting himself in the face I have been watching fights from the UK for a while now.

[LoadedWraps]

wanna bet? ill bet all my points/whatever u want that Wallin wins.

Points bets are kind of meaningless since none of us have many points anymore lol.

I favor Kauffman, but not in some absolute way. I could see Wallin winning, but I don't favor him going in.

I'll probably put money on the fight if I don't forget though, is this this weekend?

[LoadedWraps]

Yeah, it's just an interesting bout. Wallin is massive fave with the bookies, to me it looks like a 50-50 on paper. If Wallin can win this fight with ease that would be impressive and it's Kaufmann's last chance really to secure a final big pay day if he can win this one.

It's one of those fights were it could be very very close, or either of them could win easily.

Sounds like a situation to take advantage of then.

I see it as a good fight. Casuals get too caught up in who the favorite is and stuff but the reality is that most fights aren't a wash nor a lock results wise, and that's a good thing.

[Mindgames]

Haha I had a good laugh at this one the time keeper starts the count the ref follows it and is supposed to count to 10 based on seconds what else would they base the counting on maybe take a long pause between 3 and 4? and then again for about 20 seconds between 8-9 that sounds fair to you right by your logic. Never in my 25 years as a boxing fan have I heard people try to justify a long count especially by saying a count is not done in seconds as long as they count to 10 somehow lmao only Tyson Fury fans.

I wanted the fight to end on even terms if a fighter gets counted out they get counted out like I said if it was the other way around you would've wanted it stopped. I also wanted Fury to win against Wallin because I wanted to see the rematch was amazed at how much he struggled in that fight and yeah it should have been stopped that cut was nasty and could have jeopardized his career we still haven't seen him take any solid punches in that area yet Wilder had nothing for him in the 2nd fight so it wasn't tested we will see if that cut causes issues in later fights.

You didn't make any argument at all against what I said. All a fighter has to do is beat the count. Nobody, including Wilder made anything out of the count, but then he wouldn't, because doctors come in and delay rounds when Deontay aint quite ready because old men got him shaky. I think all the justifications come from Wilder fans, because he's the loser with no title. He's the one who came up with the most embarrassing excuse is boxing history, known the world over. I read loads of posts here about Fury shouldve been stopped on that cut, but theres no sense in it, any fight can be your last. Wilders biggest weakness isn't that he can't box very well, it's a huge lack of stamina. He's fast twitch all the way, like a sprinter. But pro boxing is endurance, and that's what Fury has. Good recovery. Wilder can only land the one, and hes not good at setting them up against someone with an equal range and reach. It amazed me that nobody ever seemed to realise the reason he always fell behind against weaker opposition. He's lack of output. He's never believed in hes own stamina. Now we know why. I don't see how he's gonna improve it now. That's why he won't be Fury. Barring something really lucky, and I can't see it. In fact, I got a strong feeling Deontay never fights him again.

[Mindgames]

Wilder and Fury are both frauds with weak resumes. The only difference is Fury is a steroid cheat too. A steroid cheat who kisses grown men. And you support this????

Lol., i dont support anything. It's just Fury is the best heavy out there at the moment. And AJ is a manufactured fighter. He's heart aint in it. He looked happy to lose to Ruiz. He stunk in the rematch, actually turned into what he accused Fury of being. A runner.

[Kannabis Kid]

You didn't make any argument at all against what I said. All a fighter has to do is beat the count. Nobody, including Wilder made anything out of the count, but then he wouldn't, because doctors come in and delay rounds when Deontay aint quite ready because old men got him shaky. I think all the justifications come from Wilder fans, because he's the loser with no title. He's the one who came up with the most embarrassing excuse is boxing history, known the world over. I read loads of posts here about Fury shouldve been stopped on that cut, but theres no sense in it, any fight can be your last. Wilders biggest weakness isn't that he can't box very well, it's a huge lack of stamina. He's fast twitch all the way, like a sprinter. But pro boxing is endurance, and that's what Fury has. Good recovery. Wilder can only land the one, and hes not good at setting them up against someone with an equal range and reach. It amazed me that nobody ever seemed to realise the reason he always fell behind against weaker opposition. He's lack of output. He's never believed in hes own stamina. Now we know why. I don't see how he's gonna improve it now. That's why he won't be Fury. Barring something really lucky, and I can't see it. In fact, I got a strong feeling Deontay never fights him again.

And you are just writing the same **** in a different paragraph I guess you are a boxing expert the way you break down things so well lmao stfu dude Fury won the 2nd fight but got a 14 count in the first no stamina Wilder was able to put him down twice in the later rounds so what does that say about Fury getting dropped twice by someone you say is not good at setting up punches, has no stamina and is not a "good pro boxer" like you say. You do realize by diminishing Wilder as a fighter you make Fury's resume look even weaker right? How are you content by saying that Wilder is trash yet praising Fury for winning? Lol you are joke dude

At the end of the day Furys **** is so far down your throat it has scrambled your brain into thinking a 10 count can be as long as 15 seconds.