Comments Thread For: Kauffman: If I Lose To Wallin, I'm Retiring; His Claim To Fame Is Losing To Fury

[Squared.Circle]

AJ is the worst of them all ran for his life against Ruiz who was way out of shape. It's not irrelevant just not a lot of people bring it up kind of swept under the rug like his UK anti-doping violations people haven't seen the fight because they haven't kept up with Fury since the start only became a fan when he was on top not when he was uppercutting himself in the face I have been watching fights from the UK for a while now.

He stayed on the back foot and boxed on the outside against a guy that is dangerous against anybody when on the inside...yea, what an absolute coward for boxing smart, regaining his titles, and ensuring he keeps his place as the highest paid heavyweight lol I bet that was McCracken's tactic for the first fight, but AJ got carried away.

The worst of them all is in fact Wilder; the man that literally hasn't improved since he got paggered all over the shop by a 5'11 Russian at "heavyweight" (amateur heavyweight is the same limit as professional cruiser, so, cruiserweight) in the Olympics and has shown time and time again that he literally has the worst boxing fundamentals, in at the very least, the top 20 of the heavyweight division lol

Whether people know about Fury vs. McDermott 1 really is irrelevant. It was over a decade ago. And like I said, he absolutely demolished McDermott in the rematch, with ease. It's not a Price vs. Thompson situation where it's a relevant gauge of current standards. And it cannot, in any way, shape, or form be compared to any fight Fury has had of recent times.

The failed drug test isn't swept under the rug. He got popped at nandos. Every Fury fan admits it. But did that have anything to do with his win over Klitschko? Only haters will say yes. Did Fury taking nandrolone cause Klitschko to become gun shy and get completely outboxed? Did it fúck as like Just like Teper's failed drug test had nothing to do with him beating the lanky Price up.

All these bandwagon Fury hater bullet points of: he should have lost to McDermott; he had a detached thumb on his glove; he failed a drug test; he was somehow able to manoeuvre his hand into the wrist area and back up to the fist area of his glove, repeatedly throughout the fight; he removed padding from his glove; he had dodgy wraps; an associate of Sugar Hill was in the crowd and influenced Breland to throw the towel in...are all just desperate attempts to discredit Fury and try to validate Wilder finally being comprehensively exposed. Fury is the boss. AJ is the second in command. The European takeover of boxing is real. Europeans hold the majority of titles and top rankings in boxing. Folks need to just build a bridge and get over it lol I understand routing for your own guy, but all this Fury hate stinks of bitterness more than a Guinness brewery.

[mlac]

Points bets are kind of meaningless since none of us have many points anymore lol.

I favor Kauffman, but not in some absolute way. I could see Wallin winning, but I don't favor him going in.

I'll probably put money on the fight if I don't forget though, is this this weekend?

yea. Kauffman is 6/1. yea i dont care about points either, hence why i said whatever you want. avatar bet? i just dont see how Kauffman wins apart from landing a lucky haymaker.

[Tyistall]

Lol., i dont support anything. It's just Fury is the best heavy out there at the moment. And AJ is a manufactured fighter. He's heart aint in it. He looked happy to lose to Ruiz. He stunk in the rematch, actually turned into what he accused Fury of being. A runner.

How do you run from someone, but also outland them 2 to 1? Your logic is flawed. And what's "manufactured" is the narrative that Fury had mental illness and depression. When in reality he got caught on steroids and put that fake story out to fool idiots like yourself hahah. Maybe Fury should have "the heart" to fight Whyte instead of ducking and running from his mandatory.

[Kannabis Kid]

He stayed on the back foot and boxed on the outside against a guy that is dangerous against anybody when on the inside...yea, what an absolute coward for boxing smart, regaining his titles, and ensuring he keeps his place as the highest paid heavyweight lol I bet that was McCracken's tactic for the first fight, but AJ got carried away.

The worst of them all is in fact Wilder; the man that literally hasn't improved since he got paggered all over the shop by a 5'11 Russian at "heavyweight" (amateur heavyweight is the same limit as professional cruiser, so, cruiserweight) in the Olympics and has shown time and time again that he literally has the worst boxing fundamentals, in at the very least, the top 20 of the heavyweight division lol

Whether people know about Fury vs. McDermott 1 really is irrelevant. It was over a decade ago. And like I said, he absolutely demolished McDermott in the rematch, with ease. It's not a Price vs. Thompson situation where it's a relevant gauge of current standards. And it cannot, in any way, shape, or form be compared to any fight Fury has had of recent times.

The failed drug test isn't swept under the rug. He got popped at nandos. Every Fury fan admits it. But did that have anything to do with his win over Klitschko? Only haters will say yes. Did Fury taking nandrolone cause Klitschko to become gun shy and get completely outboxed? Did it fúck as like Just like Teper's failed drug test had nothing to do with him beating the lanky Price up.

All these bandwagon Fury hater bullet points of: he should have lost to McDermott; he had a detached thumb on his glove; he failed a drug test; he was somehow able to manoeuvre his hand into the wrist area and back up to the fist area of his glove, repeatedly throughout the fight; he removed padding from his glove; he had dodgy wraps; an associate of Sugar Hill was in the crowd and influenced Breland to throw the towel in...are all just desperate attempts to discredit Fury and try to validate Wilder finally being comprehensively exposed. Fury is the boss. AJ is the second in command. The European takeover of boxing is real. Europeans hold the majority of titles and top rankings in boxing. Folks need to just build a bridge and get over it lol I understand routing for your own guy, but all this Fury hate stinks of bitterness more than a Guinness brewery.

I didnt read most this crap because once I saw you use the analogy of Wilder getting dropped by a Russian in the amateurs I realized you don't seem to remember what Mihai Nistor did to Joshua in the Euro Championships as well he did the same dance he did in the Ruiz fight I know Nistor is not Russian either before you say some dumb **** I'm saying this because it happened in the amateurs go check his height as well lmao.

[LoadedWraps]

yea. Kauffman is 6/1. yea i dont care about points either, hence why i said whatever you want. avatar bet? i just dont see how Kauffman wins apart from landing a lucky haymaker.

Going to review some Kauffman tape rq before I make my decision.

[boogbx]

Kaufman is borderline terrible but he’s right.

Wallin is a good guage of where he’s at and what he can hope to accomplish. I got Wallin big though but I’ve been miserably wrong before, can be miserably wrong again.

May the best man win.

[Mindgames]

And you are just writing the same **** in a different paragraph I guess you are a boxing expert the way you break down things so well lmao stfu dude Fury won the 2nd fight but got a 14 count in the first no stamina Wilder was able to put him down twice in the later rounds so what does that say about Fury getting dropped twice by someone you say is not good at setting up punches, has no stamina and is not a "good pro boxer" like you say. You do realize by diminishing Wilder as a fighter you make Fury's resume look even weaker right? How are you content by saying that Wilder is trash yet praising Fury for winning? Lol you are joke dude

At the end of the day Furys **** is so far down your throat it has scrambled your brain into thinking a 10 count can be as long as 15 seconds.

I just simply agree with the rest of the boxing world that Furys the best heavyweight. Wilder had spent hes career not fighting at any kind of pace. The first fight Fury picked and proded but let Wilder take hes time. Wrong tactics. As soon as he raised the pace and pressure in fight two Wilder had fell apart by round three.That Fury got caught at all in the first fight is hes own fault, but if you look at the rematch he's trying to throw right hand leads from about a foot out of range. This is a master boxer is it? Funny, there's no such thing as a 14 count, there's a 10 count and that's all you have to beat. It's hard to accept when a guy you thought was something special gets exposed as neither being able to handle a boxer, or a guy who comes at him. We all know why he's whole career was spent avoiding any decent young fighter or puncher. I never said Fury was the greatest, he's the best of a bad bunch, but he's clearly the best and at least has some stamina and skills unlike the two muscle robots who dont even feint lol. But by all means live in your denial if it means it hurts less lol.

[Mindgames]

How do you run from someone, but also outland them 2 to 1? Your logic is flawed. And what's "manufactured" is the narrative that Fury had mental illness and depression. When in reality he got caught on steroids and put that fake story out to fool idiots like yourself hahah. Maybe Fury should have "the heart" to fight Whyte instead of ducking and running from his mandatory.

He was always nuts, it was documented even before he fought Chisora the first time. But who cares? I dont get how you back Whyte, a two time cheat, against a guy you don't like for cheating. The thing is, Fury has proved he's the best heavy right now.Ajs performance against Ruiz in the rematch didnt prove anything except he's a much better athlete than Ruiz, much bigger with a longer reach. He's tactics were right but he boxed as if scared to be hit. He won't be able to do that with bigger men with longer reaches. As for ducking mandatories, I refer you back to Whyte. He's twice a cheat who bashed up Rivas in basically a mugging when those around him knew he's was drugging. How's that for class? He looked awful against Wach, you think he's the future?

[Squared.Circle]

I didnt read most this crap because once I saw you use the analogy of Wilder getting dropped by a Russian in the amateurs I realized you don't seem to remember what Mihai Nistor did to Joshua in the Euro Championships as well he did the same dance he did in the Ruiz fight I know Nistor is not Russian either before you say some dumb **** I'm saying this because it happened in the amateurs go check his height as well lmao.

Ah, that ol' tactic, "I didn't read half of that (I actually did but I can't logically answer most of it) so I don't have to reply" standard procedure for Wildettes.

The analogy is sound and factual...Wilder hasn't improved since he got lit up as an amateur cruiserweight. His amateur fights look exactly the same as his professional fights; over reaching on every single punch; the guy even still steps into his punches with the back foot like an untrained street fighter or somebody from the WWE for shít sake crossing his legs and squaring up when he awkwardly tries to use lateral movement; backing up in straight lines; no variety in his punches whatsoever, he does know about uppercuts and body shots, right?; can't fight on the inside to save his life; same terrible defence—can Wilder even spell parry? Do AJ's amateur and professional fights look the same? Not even close, but you'd probably say otherwise because you hate the fact that Europe—and more specifically, Britain—runs the heavyweight division

Only reason Wilder is in the top five is because he held the title hostage for so long while getting outboxed by average level boxers until he'd pull through with the single attribute he has lol

Fury and AJ are the top dogs. Just get it over, Barry.

[Kannabis Kid]

I just simply agree with the rest of the boxing world that Furys the best heavyweight. Wilder had spent hes career not fighting at any kind of pace. The first fight Fury picked and proded but let Wilder take hes time. Wrong tactics. As soon as he raised the pace and pressure in fight two Wilder had fell apart by round three.That Fury got caught at all in the first fight is hes own fault, but if you look at the rematch he's trying to throw right hand leads from about a foot out of range. This is a master boxer is it? Funny, there's no such thing as a 14 count, there's a 10 count and that's all you have to beat. It's hard to accept when a guy you thought was something special gets exposed as neither being able to handle a boxer, or a guy who comes at him. We all know why he's whole career was spent avoiding any decent young fighter or puncher. I never said Fury was the greatest, he's the best of a bad bunch, but he's clearly the best and at least has some stamina and skills unlike the two muscle robots who dont even feint lol. But by all means live in your denial if it means it hurts less lol.

Lol this is whats funny to me this is a thread about Kauffman and Wallin and somehow Wilder's name got brought up not by me but by you because that's what you all always do. I have always said at the moment Fury is the number 1 heavyweight I have never denied it but you guys act like he is a god that is untouchable and unbeatable and clearly that is not true. His win over Klitschko was good on paper but nobody will remember that fight in 20 years. I also have never said Wilder was great he has the power to put anybody out though and that's a fact.

Fury won the 2nd fight fair and square but you make it seem like he put Wilder out cold he hit Wilder in the back of the head (not intentional Wilder tried to slip his right hand and that's just where it landed) but it happened and he was never able to recover has happened to other fighters in the same way before too. Of course when you are stunned like that in a fight against an extremely talented boxer like Fury you are going to be in trouble I have never taken anything away from Tyson Fury's skill set he is a hell of a fighter who can move very well for his size I just feel like he get's away with a lot of **** and I don't like his attitude towards a lot of things.