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  • #71
    Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
    Beats Wlad, Wilder twice in the eyes of the world, beats Chisora twice, all in the record books. No disqualification, no no contests, no quiting in round seven coz he was tired lol.
    It's also in the record books that he is a steroid cheat. And really? You are giving him credit for beating Chisora??? Chisora who has 10 losses on his record? You are reaching. Your man kissing idol must've tongued you down

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
      Sounds like a bunch of excuses as to why he lost glad you admit it too. Yeah sure he can drink as much champagne as he wants he has been doing so since around the time he started incorporating copious amounts of wild boar into his diet. Except when UKAD came around he was in depression and had been addicted to alcohol and ******* so he says yet those in company of him still drink including himself he played it pretty well got a lot of sympathy from the general public even had ESPN reporting on his sob story but its all fake people who actually had dealt with substance abuse problems don't hang around people indulging in their vices.
      Where's the excuse in my comment? McDermott lost a close decision to a novice Fury and was then easily bossed around and stopped by...a novice Fury. Wallin lost to an experienced Fury. Simple facts of why your illogical comparison has no merit. The only way it would have any weight is if McDermott got back in the ring and fought Fury, which would be an even more one-sided fight than both Wilder contests put together (which were very one sided). And there's no admitting Fury lost, when, well, he's undefeated lol your opinions are literally irrelevant. Fury is still undefeated and is still the best heavyweight until somebody proves otherwise. Your disdain for the man will never change the facts 30–0–1, two-time heavyweight champion.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
        And where do you get that bull**** from? The Queensbury rules say otherwise it's a 10 second count of course it is not going to be perfect because the ref is the deciding factor but the ******ed **** you are saying is like yeah it doesn't matter if it takes me 30 seconds as long as I count to 10.

        I guess you think Lucian Bute beat the count against Librado Andrade too. I understand you are infatuated with Fury but it was a long count you can try to justify it by saying a 10 count is not 10 seconds but that's what you will only say when it happens to a fighter you like but if it was the other way around you would be saying he should've been counted out.

        Like to me I like Nonito Donaire but he got knocked out by Inoue the referee counted to 10 when he got up but they let the fight keep going and Nonito showed he's a dog just like Fury did against Wilder yeah I agree he came back and did some good work but he should have been counted out just like Donaire.
        Nah you sound like Don King trying to do Buster out of hes title. It's not done in seconds, never was, because the ref ain't got a stopwatch. There's a timekeeper and a ref, the fighters only job is to beat the count. Which he did. And all this talk about "he was out". Its not about the state of your mind when on the floor, its about the count still because you get knocked out of time, nothing else. You wanted him stopped because you wanted a Wilder win. You may be like other Wilder fans and wanted him stopped on a cut against Wallin too, even though he won it alright. Imagine the kind of boxing fan who wants a fight stopped on a cut, to protect their hero,rather than get a big fight. Hard to imagine until you talk to a Wilder fan lol.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
          It's also in the record books that he is a steroid cheat. And really? You are givingg him credit for beating Chisora??? Chisora who has 10 losses on his record? You are reaching. Your man kissing idol must've tongued you down
          He beat Chisora twice, and I think you'll find he didn't have 10 defeats then.Chisora is still better than everyone on Wilders record outside of Ortiz and Fury himself. Now, stop crying and save your fantasies for that other site you like to visit lol.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
            Lmao oh **** I forgot it's you no wonder I should've realized your logic when placing Dereck Chisora alongside 2 former champions when listing accolades haha this the same Chisora who has lost 9 times already and came in grossly overweight for their rematch and quit on his stool?
            Chisora still better than every Wilder opponent outside Fury and Ortiz. Fury has Wlad and Wilder obviously, and doesn't have an embarrassing stoppage defeat to a guy who's not known for power or stopping people, like AJ and Wilder both have. AJ quit in the ring against Ruiz, and Wilder fell apart the first time someone went at him,like AJ he was gassed in three rounds. How embarrassing lol.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
              Where's the excuse in my comment? McDermott lost a close decision to a novice Fury and was then easily bossed around and stopped by...a novice Fury. Wallin lost to an experienced Fury. Simple facts of why your illogical comparison has no merit. The only way it would have any weight is if McDermott got back in the ring and fought Fury, which would be an even more one-sided fight than both Wilder contests put together (which were very one sided). And there's no admitting Fury lost, when, well, he's undefeated lol your opinions are literally irrelevant. Fury is still undefeated and is still the best heavyweight until somebody proves otherwise. Your disdain for the man will never change the facts 30–0–1, two-time heavyweight champion.
              More of the same old you just wrote me a paragraph on how much you love Fury he lost that fight plain and simple just like Mayweather lost against Castillo the only reason you think Fury won is because you are biased Bellend.

              I can admit Fury beat Wilder in the first fight even though it should have been stopped but it wasn't and on the cards I thought he outboxed him I said that immediately after the fight even though I was pulling for Wilder it is what is sometimes your fighters lose whether it goes on the records or not Danny Garcia-Mauricio Herrera, Gabriel Campillo-Tavoris Cloud, Shawn Porter-Yordenis Ugas, the list goes on and on.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                Nah you sound like Don King trying to do Buster out of hes title. It's not done in seconds, never was, because the ref ain't got a stopwatch. There's a timekeeper and a ref, the fighters only job is to beat the count. Which he did. And all this talk about "he was out". Its not about the state of your mind when on the floor, its about the count still because you get knocked out of time, nothing else. You wanted him stopped because you wanted a Wilder win. You may be like other Wilder fans and wanted him stopped on a cut against Wallin too, even though he won it alright. Imagine the kind of boxing fan who wants a fight stopped on a cut, to protect their hero,rather than get a big fight. Hard to imagine until you talk to a Wilder fan lol.
                Haha I had a good laugh at this one the time keeper starts the count the ref follows it and is supposed to count to 10 based on seconds what else would they base the counting on maybe take a long pause between 3 and 4? and then again for about 20 seconds between 8-9 that sounds fair to you right by your logic. Never in my 25 years as a boxing fan have I heard people try to justify a long count especially by saying a count is not done in seconds as long as they count to 10 somehow lmao only Tyson Fury fans.

                I wanted the fight to end on even terms if a fighter gets counted out they get counted out like I said if it was the other way around you would've wanted it stopped. I also wanted Fury to win against Wallin because I wanted to see the rematch was amazed at how much he struggled in that fight and yeah it should have been stopped that cut was nasty and could have jeopardized his career we still haven't seen him take any solid punches in that area yet Wilder had nothing for him in the 2nd fight so it wasn't tested we will see if that cut causes issues in later fights.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                  He beat Chisora twice, and I think you'll find he didn't have 10 defeats then.Chisora is still better than everyone on Wilders record outside of Ortiz and Fury himself. Now, stop crying and save your fantasies for that other site you like to visit lol.
                  He took Chisora's O.

                  Tyrone just lacks boxing knowledge, and all he does is say the same things in every post

                  Fury, Wallin, Schwarz, Steroids

                  Jumble the above words around a few times and you can post like him as well.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                    Chisora still better than every Wilder opponent outside Fury and Ortiz. Fury has Wlad and Wilder obviously, and doesn't have an embarrassing stoppage defeat to a guy who's not known for power or stopping people, like AJ and Wilder both have. AJ quit in the ring against Ruiz, and Wilder fell apart the first time someone went at him,like AJ he was gassed in three rounds. How embarrassing lol.
                    Chisora is a punching bag who gained fame by being a jackass and never winning any of his big fights has more views for him getting "glassed" by his master than his actual fights combined. Even if Luis Ortiz was 87 years old and skipped his blood pressure medication for a week he would still beat a prime Dereck Chisora any day.

                    Difference between AJ and Wilder is AJ quit on his own accord Wilder would have died in the ring at least he lives by what he says his corner threw in the towel he didn't bow out don't forget that when tarnishing and disrespecting fighters who actually go out there and lay it all on the line when you probably have never even put a pair of gloves on in your life if you did you wouldn't be flapping your ***** lips so freely.

                    It's funny how people say Andy Ruiz doesn't have power either just because bitter Bob Arum said so in an interview after Andy got the big fight. Ruiz broke his hand when he fought Sergei Liakovich before that he had been stopping a lot of people so I'm sure he had to go through a recovery process plus it's not always one punch power that gets the finish speed kills and anytime someone that big is throwing combos and you take them clean you can get hurt that's a fact why don't you go test it since you think it's embarrassing to get knocked out by fighters like him.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by denium View Post
                      He took Chisora's O.

                      Tyrone just lacks boxing knowledge, and all he does is say the same things in every post

                      Fury, Wallin, Schwarz, Steroids

                      Jumble the above words around a few times and you can post like him as well.
                      Yup just like McDermott took Furys you are making it seem like beating Chisora is something that is not common yeah Tyson did it first but it's not like Chisora went on to become a world champion or have some huge hot streak.

                      I'll give it to him he beat up Helenius and should have got the nod in the first Whyte fight but Whyte closed that chapter with a brutal knockout and well Helenius had his fair string of bad luck after that fight so it's safe to say that performance helped Chisora get his only title shot where he failed against Vitali but allowed him to propel him into getting some more paydays. I don't dislike Chisora either I just find it funny how you guys always put that up there as one of Furys good wins because he doesn't have many.

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