The Part About Loma-Teo Nobody Is Talking About

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  • koolkc107
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    #41
    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
    Yep.

    That's his black supremist agenda. Literally I see Goldie support this guy and I knew all he was trying to do.

    Only wants to argue percentage because it's the only thing that fits his agenda. Wont talk about anything else but still claim he's right.

    Doesn't feel the need to prove his point only wants to sit and complain.

    They look so pathetic.

    Teo is a draw. Prove it. No? But you still think you're right? Lmfao. OP creates a thread and gets trashed. Too funnym
    Gets trashed where?

    It's my questions you pompom wavers seem to be having problems with.

    What you like to discuss?

    The fact that Loma has never had a ppv?

    The fact that the only arena he's sold out recently is O2 in Britain and that's because everyone was showing up for Luke Campbell?

    Maybe you'd like to discuss why almost every fight Loma has had at MSG happens not in the main arena but in the theater, which has a capacity of 5,000 and not even all those have sold out.

    Careful what you ask for son.

    This really isn't about the fact that Teo is more popular than Linares or Pedraza, which he is.

    This is about the fact that Lomachenko IS NOT THREE TIMES MORE POPULAR THAN LOPEZ and that therefore he in no way, shape, or form deserves three times the money as Teo.

    This is about fanboys not even understanding how smoke is being blown up their arses by a promoter who is trying his damnest NOT TO MAKE A FIGHT NOW because he wants to do it next year where he can sell tickets and maybe ppv.

    This is about some idiot who thinks every fact he disagrees with has to be about race, since that's the only thing he can easily see thru that white hood he is probably wearing. No one but no one mentioned race because this isn't about that, but as soon as you felt out of your depth YOU MADE IT ABOUT THAT since you can't argue the facts on their own merit.

    Pathetic.

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    • koolkc107
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      #42
      Originally posted by NC Uppercut
      While you have some valid points, think about it from this angle. Yes Top Rank and ESPN saved during the non fighting months, but now they are forced to make use of the bubble. They have tons of Covid tests to do daily, very expensive, furnishing food and entertainment to keep people from leaving the specified areas, sanitate the ring between fights. Most importantly; no gate money, nor merch sales. An entire floor of the hosting hotel, all week, every week. They are the ones paying for the site fees. Just a few items that influence their finacial situation.
      Fair enough.

      That's definitely making things more expensive with a business model very different than what they are used to.

      But again, my take isn't hard to understand if you follow the sport and have seen Arum in action before.

      There's just no reason for an almost 3 to 1 disparity in the purses I can figure out without remembering that Arum is a genius when it comes to making offers that really aren't offers.

      We are talking an extra 800K for Teo and he almost HAS TO TAKE IT even tho truthfully the split should be closer to even.

      Loma is hella popular with some hard-core fans and a few others I won't discuss here. But, he's far from a household name. He has never generated the revenue to justify this kind of split with a guy like Lopez.

      Arum knows that.

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      • Derranged
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        #43
        Lomachicken don't wants dat Aztec smoke!

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        • richardt
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          #44
          Originally posted by Goldie
          Gamboa has his own issues outside of top rank and arum. He’s had problems making fights regardless of the promoter. I’m not even entertaining your revisionist history deflection any further.

          Look, I asked you what does loma do if the Lopez fight isn’t there and you respond with a bunch of “well Arum could....would do this if that” bullsht. Arum being a shady piece of sht who could possibly play dirty isn’t a reason to bow down and go against your principles.

          My point is here that if this fight doesn’t get made then it hurts everybody. It hurts loma and top rank as well as lopez. It’s in all of their best interests to get the fight made. People are acting like the only who who potentially loses if the fight doesn’t get made is lopez.
          It does not hurt everyone equally if a boxer declines the fight. Arum still promotes fights, and makes money, Loma still fights and makes money on a replacement; it is Lopez that faces the scorn and potentially worse if he is not in compliance with the contract he signed with Arum or demands more then being offered and refuses to budge unless Arum decides to offer more. At that point either Arum lets him slide and gets him another fight, or he legally holds Lopez to the contract and the financial obligations and if it goes that route, Arum can make his life miserable. If Lopez walks, fans from all across the board will scorn him, including ones from his own fanbase. Lets not pretend Lopez is incapable of making a bad decision. It is up to he and Arum to iron it out unless Loma pulls something ****** along the way.
          Last edited by richardt; 08-02-2020, 08:03 PM.

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #45
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            Gets trashed where?

            It's my questions you pompom wavers seem to be having problems with.

            What you like to discuss?

            The fact that Loma has never had a ppv?

            The fact that the only arena he's sold out recently is O2 in Britain and that's because everyone was showing up for Luke Campbell?

            Maybe you'd like to discuss why almost every fight Loma has had at MSG happens not in the main arena but in the theater, which has a capacity of 5,000 and not even all those have sold out.

            Careful what you ask for son.

            This really isn't about the fact that Teo is more popular than Linares or Pedraza, which he is.

            This is about the fact that Lomachenko IS NOT THREE TIMES MORE POPULAR THAN LOPEZ and that therefore he in no way, shape, or form deserves three times the money as Teo.

            This is about fanboys not even understanding how smoke is being blown up their arses by a promoter who is trying his damnest NOT TO MAKE A FIGHT NOW because he wants to do it next year where he can sell tickets and maybe ppv.

            This is about some idiot who thinks every fact he disagrees with has to be about race, since that's the only thing he can easily see thru that white hood he is probably wearing. No one but no one mentioned race because this isn't about that, but as soon as you felt out of your depth YOU MADE IT ABOUT THAT since you can't argue the facts on their own merit.

            Pathetic.
            This guy says he's an Asian and he's always talking about black supremacy in defense of every half decent white fighter. He calls every perceived Afro American poster a racist. Guy lost his identity and is confused. Forgive him!

            If, let's say I'm a black supremacist, it doesn't apply here. We are supporting Lopez and Lopez isn't Afro American.

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            • MulaKO
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              #46
              Originally posted by lizard_man
              You're a ******. Teófimo is a champ. His minimum is 1 mil a fight. If arum doesn't keep him happy, al Haymon would be more than happy to pay him.



              Ok then PBC




              Originally posted by L. Cipher
              He'd probably make about that if he fought Tank, Haney or Garcia and close for any unification fight or a fight against a big name at 140.



              Those guys won’t be fighting anybody for a long time
              They all avoided Loma who is not your predominant knockout artist , you think they’d be willing to take a chance against a young ko artist
              I’ll believe it when they’re in the ring before that I’d say bullchit

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              • R-Hand Southpaw
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                #47
                Originally posted by koolkc107
                Gets trashed where?

                It's my questions you pompom wavers seem to be having problems with.

                What you like to discuss?

                The fact that Loma has never had a ppv?

                The fact that the only arena he's sold out recently is O2 in Britain and that's because everyone was showing up for Luke Campbell?

                Maybe you'd like to discuss why almost every fight Loma has had at MSG happens not in the main arena but in the theater, which has a capacity of 5,000 and not even all those have sold out.

                Careful what you ask for son.

                This really isn't about the fact that Teo is more popular than Linares or Pedraza, which he is.

                This is about the fact that Lomachenko IS NOT THREE TIMES MORE POPULAR THAN LOPEZ and that therefore he in no way, shape, or form deserves three times the money as Teo.

                This is about fanboys not even understanding how smoke is being blown up their arses by a promoter who is trying his damnest NOT TO MAKE A FIGHT NOW because he wants to do it next year where he can sell tickets and maybe ppv.

                This is about some idiot who thinks every fact he disagrees with has to be about race, since that's the only thing he can easily see thru that white hood he is probably wearing. No one but no one mentioned race because this isn't about that, but as soon as you felt out of your depth YOU MADE IT ABOUT THAT since you can't argue the facts on their own merit.

                Pathetic.
                Just like them Mexicans bazooka pushing an anti white agenda and you pushing your black one.

                Im not white.

                Now be like your friend Goldie and say ****** **** like im serving my masters.

                Trash ass people like you make everyone look bad. Just because you're literally too ****ing ****** to understand simple **** doesn't make you right.

                No one mentioned race but let's not pretend like it isn't a part of your agenda. Id bet money that if it was Teo vs Haney you'd go pro black and say Teo isn't worth ****. You talk about mental gymnastics? Try thinking about your passive aggressive **** you try to pull.

                Your only argument is that Teo has a small percentage but disregard every other fact that doesn't fit your agenda.

                You create a ****ing thread where no one believes any **** you're saying but no, you still can't be wrong.

                Let's talk about your popularity claim. Lomachenko isnt 3 times more popular than Teo.

                Why don't you back up your statement with facts? Is it because you can't lmfao?

                Come on. Youre so right. Tell me yo. Show me.

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                • MulaKO
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                  #48
                  Lopez is worried about losing
                  This is just one of many excuses he’s made
                  For a guy who was trashing Loma , he sure don’t sound to fughin sure now

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    Gets trashed where?

                    It's my questions you pompom wavers seem to be having problems with.

                    What you like to discuss?

                    The fact that Loma has never had a ppv?
                    Loma did 17,000 plus, selling out that arena in England on PPV. He's been getting 2 million people (approx) to tune into his fights since Linares. Arum has been VERY happy about that.

                    The fact that the only arena he's sold out recently is O2 in Britain and that's because everyone was showing up for Luke Campbell?
                    He got 10,101 into Staples Center and sold out that arena for the Pedraza fight.

                    Maybe you'd like to discuss why almost every fight Loma has had at MSG happens not in the main arena but in the theater, which has a capacity of 5,000 and not even all those have sold out.
                    That's just not true. Lomachenko has headlined inside the main portion of MSG in his career and three-times within the Garden's Hulu Theater. He fought before a crowd of 10,429 in Madison Square Garden's main arena.

                    Right now, it's obvious you're a hater cause you're too damn lazy to check the facts before you start typing. Or you are deliberately ignorant. The only other alternative is that you're a damn liar.


                    Careful what you ask for son.

                    This really isn't about the fact that Teo is more popular than Linares or Pedraza, which he is.
                    You have ZERO proof of that. If you do, PLEASE ILLUMINATE the rest of the forum with your privileged, secret information.

                    This is about the fact that Lomachenko IS NOT THREE TIMES MORE POPULAR THAN LOPEZ and that therefore he in no way, shape, or form deserves three times the money as Teo.
                    It actually is a fact. He has, hands down, significantly more social media followers, is a global sensation, and is talked about all over social media, from Joe Rogans podcast, from MMA fighters like CONOR MCGREGOR, to casual boxing fans who just tune into him. Don't believe me? Just check the Google Search Metrics for only the USA, and you'll see that he's always searched for more than Teofimo. And on his coming fights, searched for more by at least a 100 times. I'm not joking. Look for yourself.

                    This is about fanboys not even understanding how smoke is being blown up their arses by a promoter who is trying his damnest NOT TO MAKE A FIGHT NOW because he wants to do it next year where he can sell tickets and maybe ppv.
                    Time to take off your tinfoil hat. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Not trying to make the fight ... why the hell would he have Loma come back to the states? Why would he even be paying his attorneys to draft contracts? That's a ****** comment. I'm sorry. Today I'm out of patience for ******.

                    This is about some idiot who thinks every fact he disagrees with has to be about race, since that's the only thing he can easily see thru that white hood he is probably wearing. No one but no one mentioned race because this isn't about that, but as soon as you felt out of your depth YOU MADE IT ABOUT THAT since you can't argue the facts on their own merit.

                    Pathetic.
                    Wow! In one sentence you bring up race and end it with his wearing a white hood. The only one here who's pathetic is you. You need to take a good look in the mirror cause you have a black heart.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #50
                      Here's the elephant in the room: What is the value of having the privilege to fight for all the belts in the lightweight division and having the chance to unify at age 23? How much is that worth? How often does that opportunity come along? I bet a boxer who believes in himself would take that opportunity for zero dollars just to have a chance to make history. It might not happen again for another decade or longer. And he's passing this up because 1.2 million is not enough? Guarantee you there's a 100 other boxers out there that would take this fight for just $100,000.
                      Last edited by Cypocryphy; 08-02-2020, 09:10 PM.

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