The Part About Loma-Teo Nobody Is Talking About

[richardt]

If Lopez stands on his square, doesn’t take the lowball offer and top rank doesn’t make the fight then why would he be the fool? Dude just turned 23 and is a champ himself. He has the world in front of him. Loma has stated that his goal is to unify but he can’t do that without fighting lopez. If loma doesn’t fight lopez then who is he going to fight that is going to matter? He’s already 32 and will be 33 in 6 months. He already ducked haney himself. Time’s running out.

If Lopez doesn't take the offer, he may be put on the sidelines by Arum and that could cost him, especially in a Covid era that is not going away for a long time. He also has to accept a no-audience/minimal-audience environment which he huffed and puffed about. Arum is the one who decides what he gets. Hence, if he gets more money, then he played it smart. He can also shoot himself in the foot by making the wrong choices. None of this has to do with Loma at this time, it is with Lopez and Arum.

[Goldie]

If Lopez doesn't take the offer, he may be put on the sidelines by Arum and that could cost him, especially in a Covid era that is not going away for a long time. He also has to accept a no-audience/minimal-audience environment which he huffed and puffed about. Arum is the one who decides what he gets. Hence, if he gets more money, then he played it smart. He can also shoot himself in the foot by making the wrong choices. None of this has to do with Loma at this time, it is with Lopez and Arum.

This is nonsense lol. Arum isn’t sidelining maybe his best young prospect who’s already a champion. Arum doesn’t make money if Lopez doesn’t fight.

How ****** are you people?

[CauliflowerEars]

Yeah, I wonder if Lopez is 100% confident, cause if he was, he would know that a win propels him to star status and huge paydays ahead. The problem with the bully mentality that he exemplifies is they often use that persona to cover up insecurities and maybe the reality is that this is what Lopez is thinking in the back of his mind. Maybe he has doubts, as many bully-types have.

Loma's the type that might say, Okay okay if you can whoop me than you can have 4M and I'll take 1M. But if I whoop you than you get the 1M and you carry my luggage in the airport.

[richardt]

This is nonsense lol. Arum isn’t sidelining maybe his best young prospect who’s already a champion. Arum doesn’t make money if Lopez doesn’t fight.

How ****** are you people?

Not as ****** as you. Arum DOES make money if Lopez doesn't fight, he has other fighters, Lopez DOES NOT have other promoters! Being in the sidelines can also mean winding up not fighting for any number of reasons caused by the fighter or the promoter. Apparently you forgot how hot of a commodity Gamboa before he pulled out of the fight with Rios. And how long was Gamboa on the sidelines after ***ing with Arum? And how long do you think Mikey went before he could fight again after ***ing with Arum? Both of those guys were bigger stars than Lopez. Obviously you are new to the sport or you would know if you *** with Arum, it can backfire.

Even an "amicable" parting like Arum and Gilberto Ramirez still left Ramirez with no fights in almost a year and a half. Furthermore, Arum has a contract with Lopez and if Lopez breaches it in any way, I'll let you figure out who suffers the most. You would have to be seriously dense not to realize that Lopez can easily make proper choices and bad choices. If Lopez backs out, he can only hope Arum will be kind to him and get him another fight, unless Lopez breaches a contract, then he will realize what he has done.

And furthermore, it is Arum who has sustainable income with other fighters, Lopez when he is not fighting, does not have sustainable income. Arum has other fighters, Lopez does not have other promoters. Arum puts up all the money, he is in control.

[TheCell8]

The purse was determined based on projections and return.

Plus, Loma's contract guarantees him a certain amount, Teo's does not.

Should Loma be forced to take less, just so Teo can take the fight? Absolutely not.

The payday is nothing to sneeze that. Rigo got paid way less, as did Walters.

[richardt]

You're a ******. Teófimo is a champ. His minimum is 1 mil a fight. If arum doesn't keep him happy, al Haymon would be more than happy to pay him.

Arum only needs to hold up his end of the contract. If Lopez breaks the contract and tries to leave Arum, he will be locked up in court battles with Arum for some time unless everything is amicable or at least is like that on the surface such as when Arum and Gilberto Ramirez parted but even in that situation it has been almost a year and a half since Ramirez fought. It's up to Lopez to make choices he wont later regret.

[Goldie]

Not as ****** as you. The sidelines can also mean winding up not fighting for any number of reasons. Apparently you forgot how hot of a commodity Gamboa before he pulled out of the fight with Rios. And how long was Gamboa on the sidelines after ***ing with Arum? And how long do you think Mikey went before he could fight again after ***ing with Arum? Both of those guys were bigger stars than Lopez. Obviously you are new to the sport or you would know if you *** with Arum, it can backfire.

Even an "amicable" parting like Arum and Gilberto Ramirez still left Ramirez with no fights in almost a year and a half. Furthermore, Arum has a contract with Lopez and if Lopez breaches it in any way, I'll let you figure out who suffers the most. You would have to be seriously dense not to realize that Lopez can easily make proper choices and bad choices. If Lopez backs out, he can only hope Arum will be kind to him and get him another fight, unless Lopez breaches a contract, then he will realize what he has done.

And furthermore, it is Arum who has sustainable income with other fighters, Lopez when he is not fighting, does not have sustainable income. Arum has other fighters, Lopez does not have other promoters. Arum puts up all the money, he is in control.

Gamboa has his own issues outside of top rank and arum. He’s had problems making fights regardless of the promoter. I’m not even entertaining your revisionist history deflection any further.

Look, I asked you what does loma do if the Lopez fight isn’t there and you respond with a bunch of “well Arum could....would do this if that” bullsht. Arum being a shady piece of sht who could possibly play dirty isn’t a reason to bow down and go against your principles.

My point is here that if this fight doesn’t get made then it hurts everybody. It hurts loma and top rank as well as lopez. It’s in all of their best interests to get the fight made. People are acting like the only who who potentially loses if the fight doesn’t get made is lopez.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Yes, you are right

But this guy is so heavily reliant on percentages because his argument falls down with every other criteria. It’s up to him to justify using percentages like that, but so far, he hasn’t

Yep.

That's his black supremist agenda. Literally I see Goldie support this guy and I knew all he was trying to do.

Only wants to argue percentage because it's the only thing that fits his agenda. Wont talk about anything else but still claim he's right.

Doesn't feel the need to prove his point only wants to sit and complain.

They look so pathetic.

Teo is a draw. Prove it. No? But you still think you're right? Lmfao. OP creates a thread and gets trashed. Too funnym

[ShaneMosleySr]

He’s getting 30% and all he’s done is beat Richard Commey.

I think it turned out pretty well for him.

[NC Uppercut]

While we all talk about if Teo is right about the lowball or whether he should take the money anyway even if he thinks it's low...let's also not forget to talk about the elephant in the room.

Top Rank has to have extra cash in hand from the budget ESPN had for this year. They had months where no purses or venues were paid because there were no fights.

So, why is Arum only offering Lopez 1.2 million?

Could it be that Bob really doesn't want this fight to happen during a time he can't sell ppvs or tickets to an arena?

The point is, we've seen this dog and pony show before.

So, we just might want to include others in our list of folks to blame, not just Teo if you absolutely need a scapegoat.

While you have some valid points, think about it from this angle. Yes Top Rank and ESPN saved during the non fighting months, but now they are forced to make use of the bubble. They have tons of Covid tests to do daily, very expensive, furnishing food and entertainment to keep people from leaving the specified areas, sanitate the ring between fights. Most importantly; no gate money, nor merch sales. An entire floor of the hosting hotel, all week, every week. They are the ones paying for the site fees. Just a few items that influence their finacial situation.