Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz Beats Down, Stops Samuel Vargas in Seventh

[Corelone]

Ortiz is going to walk into a right hand one of these nights. He's sloppy, he's trying angles, that's good, but his guard is low while he's in range and he swings a lot without jabbing. Maybe it's the level of guys he's fighting.

[Doubledagger]

Was a decent performance against a durable guy I think Vergil needs to change up gloves that's 2 times he's hurt his hands in fights using the MX Everlast. People are quick to discredit Vargas because he had already lost to Garcia and Spence but that doesn't mean Vargas couldn't improve and learn from those losses something he has done and shown in the Khan and Collazo fights he was rolling a lot of Vergils punches as well but that jab was on point and that is what made the difference in the end.

Yeah often people criticize a fighter for having a tougher time than another fighter who beat the guy.

It's like people ignore the fact that some fighters can actually grow from their previous losses.

As they say, sometimes you can learn more from failure than success (although of course we still rather not fail in the first place).

[Doubledagger]

You son don’t know ****tt about boxing but I’m pretty sure you don’t believe what you just typed you know Vergil is the real deal but because he’s well you know you just don’t wanna admit.

I’ll tell you who is a ko waiting to happen tho Haney, Shakur and Tank those dudes are sloppy hype jobs nothing g else

I'm a black guy, South African by nationality and I'm a fan of Ortiz.

I don't understand this race war between fans, especially when it concerns someone as humble and grounded as Ortiz.

The kid is extremely talented and works hard. He has discipline and also humility, and delivers the KOs. What more could you want from a fighter?

[Doubledagger]

It’s blasphemous to compare Munguia to Vergil. The kid is levels ahead of Jaime even @ this early stage in his career. Vergil systematically broke down a crafty veteran that has had battles with some current and past champions. Listen, it’s obvious you ain’t a Vergil fan and that’s fine but don’t diminish the kid skills there’s a reason, so many are calling this kid the future king @ 147. Those that know boxing see that Vergil is a special talent and the heir apparent to Canelo as the next face of boxing. Viva Vergil...

Bro Virgil is an amazing talent I agree but come on, there's nothing special about this victory, impressive yes, but not special.

He did what he was supposed to do that's all.

Yes, that's very good because some prospects fall short against these tough gatekeepers but beating him and knocking him out is what a future world champion is supposed to do, nothing more than that.

Still, Ortiz is developing well. I predict Ortiz and Jaron Boots Ennis will rule the division in the future, until Teofimo Lopez, Josh Taylor, Regis Prograis, and Devin Haney reach the division at least.

Then things will get really interesting. We'll be spoilt with some amazing match ups.

[bigdunny1]

He did well when he was fighting patient throwing that straight jab but rounds in between he was getting reckless. It reminded me of Jaime Munguia who did the same thing in many of his fights but the moment they matched him with someone that can handle his power and counter punch the energy suddenly changed for Munguia. It's the same that I see will be the case with Ortiz if he swings wild like he was doing with Vargas against a top welter. You are right though in him being only 22 and in 2 years he will be ready.

You have gone full re tard. There is literally nothing similar between Vergil who has elite amateur pedigree, top notch technique and fundamental defense compared to Munguia who had no amateur background and is still learning boxing fundamentals on the fly. Munguia while winning has lost many rounds hasn't knocked out all his opponents even when he was facing tomato cans early his career gets hit a ton whoever he faces. Ortiz doesn't get hit much and in 16 fights has 16 KOs and he has maybe lost 1 round in all those fights combined. He's dominating and not just winning off brute face forward slugging eating punches on the way like Munguia.

We are all dumber after reading your post comparing these 2 fighters who fight nothing alike.

[bigdunny1]

It’s blasphemous to compare Munguia to Vergil. The kid is levels ahead of Jaime even @ this early stage in his career. Vergil systematically broke down a crafty veteran that has had battles with some current and past champions. Listen, it’s obvious you ain’t a Vergil fan and that’s fine but don’t diminish the kid skills there’s a reason, so many are calling this kid the future king @ 147. Those that know boxing see that Vergil is a special talent and the heir apparent to Canelo as the next face of boxing. Viva Vergil...

Forget blasphemous you don't know boxing if you think Vergil and Munguia fight the same way. lol

According to compubox Ortiz landed 244 punches at almost a 50% connect rate on Vargas but more importantly Vargas ONLY landed 54 punches while throwing 373 a horrendous 15% connect rate. For Ortiz's carreer coming in his opponents were only landing about 7 punches a round. He's not getting hit a lot. Munguia can't get away from punches. The skill level and defense is nowhere the same.

[Corelone]

It took longer for Ortiz than Spence for lack of finesse. Vargas could see the haymakers coming from Ortiz, he had time to use his experience. He turned his head or bobbed when he saw Ortiz coming with hard punches, few jabs or feints.

[kidbazooka]

It took longer for Ortiz than Spence for lack of finesse. Vargas could see the haymakers coming from Ortiz, he had time to use his experience. He turned his head or bobbed when he saw Ortiz coming with hard punches, few jabs or feints.

Nope

Go watch both fights again Vargas thought he could actually beat Spence therefore he opened up more and took chances but with Vergil he knew he was completely outgunned and wanted a moral victory by being the firs to go the distance with Vergil he anticipated every shot and bit down every time when hit and if you know boxing you know it makes it harder to stop the guy but Vergil did, by will got him out of there and that’s hard to do.

Funny because Spence is the one that’s a KO waiting to happen dude lunges a lot with his punches and like light hitting Mediocre porter showed Spence gets wobbled and hurt.


Vergil will be p4p number #1 Mark my words.

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Good breaking down to the TKO

Definitely Vergil Ortiz Jr. is the goods and very humble. He improving each fight while TKO/KO opponents in a intelligently manner. He going to be a menace soon, but let's not get carried away and putting him quickly with current champions and top 5. I want someone like Ray Robinson or better yet, Yordenis Ugas. I like how he grade himself.

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Doesn't have to be a champion, I think any solid black fighter would take him out...

Negative Red Karma: Fool, you are mocking in embarrassment our countryman Boricua dignity. People like you are the reason that give the rest a pass to not respect our beloved Puerto Rico. Have more dignity, humbleness and respect to other fighters around the globe. Vergil Ortiz Jr. is going to be a Pound For Pound in the future and he have 22 years old already and in the conversations in the welterweight division, soon to fight a former champ or another title challenger. As a Boricua, I recognize Vergil Ortiz Jr. soon to be elite. Remember that lesson well.