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  • Originally posted by indelible View Post
    Stop. You’re gonna break your man crush of Ryan Garcia’s heart with those words
    Not as much as you’ll break yours for Nostrils and Beaver teeth.

    Funny you only mention Ryan but not Haney and Shakur who are also well behind Ortiz but I think we know why you didn’t.

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    • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
      Don't think so. Maybe in the power department. Ortiz has bad habits that Haney and Shakur don't have.

      He is front foot heavy most of the times, telegraphs some of his hard punches and pulls his right hand down when he jabs. Plenty to exploit but small things that he can get right. The other two guys are fundamentally more sound.
      Are you serious? Lol

      Have you not seen Haney lunging in all off balance with his shots dude makes mistake after mistake and Shakur loves to leave that chin up In there air at times.

      Ortiz is well ahead and a much better fighter than Haney and Shakur easily but Ofcourse folks are biased so they will see what they wanna see.

      Right now Ortiz has faced and beaten waaaay better fighters than Haney and Shakur that is not even debatable.

      When Haney and Shakur face even half the level of guys Ortiz has beaten come talk to me for now those dudes are unproven typical hype jobs by the media looking for the next “slick” boxer.
      Last edited by kidbazooka; 07-25-2020, 08:52 PM.

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      • Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
        Are you serious? Lol

        Have you not seen Haney lunging in all off balance with his shots dude makes mistake after mistake and Shakur loves to leave that chin up In there air at times.

        Ortiz is well ahead and a much better fighter than Haney and Shakur easily but Ofcourse folks are biased so they will see what they wanna see.

        Right now Ortiz has faced and beaten waaaay better fighters than Haney and Shakur that is not even debatable.
        Never said that they were better. You said that he is waaaay better and IMO I don't think that he is that ahead of them. Skills beats power. Ortiz is more pleasing to watch but the other two are really skilled fighters. I don't prefer one over the other, if you think that I am biased because I don't think like you I don't know what to tell you.

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        • Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
          Not as much as you’ll break yours for Nostrils and Beaver teeth.

          Funny you only mention Ryan but not Haney and Shakur who are also well behind Ortiz but I think we know why you didn’t.
          Haha that’s a weak comeback. Don’t even try to compete with insults. You’ll only embarrass yourself some more.

          Haney and Stevenson are out of the equation cause stylistically they’re different from Ortiz. How is Shakur behind Ortiz when he was a world featherweight champion at age 22 which is same age Ortiz is right now. Sit your ass down cause you don’t know boxing to make such idiotic arguments

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          • Originally posted by indelible View Post
            Haha that’s a weak comeback. Don’t even try to compete with insults. You’ll only embarrass yourself some more.

            Haney and Stevenson are out of the equation cause stylistically they’re different from Ortiz. How is Shakur behind Ortiz when he was a world featherweight champion at age 22 which is same age Ortiz is right now. Sit your ass down cause you don’t know boxing to make such idiotic arguments
            “Embarrass” lol

            Cmon man these fake ass belts don’t mean squat nowadays and you know that, Ortiz has faced and beaten much better comp than Shakur or are you gonna sit there and pretend he hasn’t?

            Ortiz is well ahead of Shakir easily.

            Those mutha****errs are all media hypejobs the next Broners you better off hoping Tank does something with his fat ass.
            Last edited by kidbazooka; 07-25-2020, 09:30 PM.

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            • Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
              “Embarrass” lol

              Cmon man these fake ass belts don’t mean squat nowadays and you know that, Ortiz has faced and beaten much better comp than Shakur or are you gonna sit there and pretend he hasn’t?

              Ortiz is well ahead of Shakir easily.

              Those mutha****errs are all media hypejobs the next Broners you better off hoping Tank does something with his fat ass.
              That’s a valid point in the level of opposition Ortiz has faced compared to Stevenson but he’s not to blame in all this. Stevenson was on his way to his first title fight to face Warrington but Warrington and his team decided to go a different route. His promoter found another alternative for a title to fight unbeaten Oscar Valdez. Unfortunately, Valdez could no longer make weight and had no choice but to vacate.

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