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Mayweather's Money Won't Match Pacquiao's Legacy, says Buddy McGirt

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  • #31
    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
    So much for naming names ?
    Algieri
    Rios
    Horn ( )
    Broner
    Lucas
    Vargas
    Skinny DLH
    Hatton
    Claused Cotto
    Clottey
    Bradley 3x
    Margarito
    A couple of shop worn legends 20 yrs ago....
    A ton of farmers and food vendors.......

    What legacy ?
    Barrera and Morales were prime elites, as were JMM, Bradley, and Cotto. Floyd ducked Margarito so I'm not sure why you'd want to discount that win. Factor in the robberies Manny suffered versus JMM I, Bradley I, and Horn and how he whooped a better version of Cotto, it's not wonder Floyd "marinated" the fight for five years as he openly admits.

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    • #32
      May schooling Pac will make sure May's name is always being mentioned.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
        Cherry-picked Juuko, Gerena, Vargas, Bruseles, Maidana, Berto, McGregor, Canelo, plenty more.

        Floyd has always been content to get by with decisions. Take the fight with over-matched Vargas, fans booed Floyd back then for being a boring fighter, this was his fifth title defense...and he had plenty of excuses for his lack of heart to finish off his opponent.

        Mayweather knocked Vargas down with a left to the body in the sixth round and won easily on all three judges' scorecards. John Keane and Daniel Van de Wiele both scored it 119-108 while Chuck Giampa had it 118-109.

        The problem was not the end, but the means. Mayweather was unable to put Vargas away, being content to cruise along on his superior speed and footwork, happy to just hit and run.

        "I went into the fight with both my [right] hand and wrist hurting," Mayweather said, "but I don't want to make excuses. I moved around more than usual because I didn't want to get hit. I was fighting with one hand."

        Vargas wasn't buying that excuse.

        "He has a lack of courage," Vargas said.

        Mayweather also had another excuse. He hadn't fought for six months because of the turmoil in his corner where his father, Floyd, Sr., remains the trainer, but has been replaced as manager by rap music producer James Prince. With Prince in charge of negotiations, the younger Mayweather's current contract with HBO ran out with Saturday's fight.

        "The long layoff affected me," Mayweather said. "It affected my defense. I was hit too much. I want to fight in a month or a month and half. Six months is too much."

        Yet despite his claims of injury and rust, Mayweather still found the time to talk to the ringside broadcasters. At one point, he told trainer Emanuel Steward that he felt fine.

        On another occasion, when HBO's Jim Lampley told his audience that Mayweather had switched to a southpaw style for the second time, Mayweather leaned over to inform Lampley that it was the third time.

        Cute stuff, but not enough to keep the crowd from booing Mayweather for the lack of action.
        Dude stop. Berto ok. Canelo, gtfo. Like saying Genaro Hernandez Cherry picked Floyd.

        Use common sense when discussing The Conor fight. You seem very upset that fight sold so well.

        So he won the fight 119-108 and you are criticizing it because he didn’t win by ko? That is just very petty. Beat a man 11-1 with a kd. How often does that happen in a title fight?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
          Not really sure what McGirt means as I feel Floyd's legacy is currently better than Mannys.

          I do not regard Mannys wins over DLH, Mosley or Margarito as GOOD wins. Mannys wins over Thurman, Cotto, and Hatton were GOOD but not GREAT. Collectively that body of work is VERY impressive especially considering how little Manny started out...its historically never been done before in the HISTORY of the sport.

          Which brings me to a very important and relevant anecdote. In the prime of Mannys career he spent 4-5 years refusing drug testing for steroids and performance enhancing drugs - something that was legitimately su****ious at the time. Some people try to ignore that never happened or choose to ignore it, but let me be clear - Manny very likely cheated. Very likely.

          As a result Floyd's legacy OR money are better than Mannys legacy.
          Wrong, in the prime of his career he refused to be slandered with false accusations of drug use, which he won an out of court settlement from Mayweather. A year later he accepts testing only to have the goal post moved by Floyd each time. Endless excuses to duck Manny in his prime. Floyd himself admits he marinated the fight for five years, and insists he deserves credit for being smart for making it a bigger fight.

          So Manny, the fighter who rematches tough opponents who he went life and death with, is somehow ducking Floyd, a guy who isn't known for his power and posed very little threat to him? Yeah ok.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            Barrera and Morales were prime elites
            Not when Pac fought them they weren't

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Dude stop. Berto ok. Canelo, gtfo. Like saying Genaro Hernandez Cherry picked Floyd.

              Use common sense when discussing The Conor fight. You seem very upset that fight sold so well.

              So he won the fight 119-108 and you are criticizing it because he didn’t win by ko? That is just very petty. Beat a man 11-1 with a kd. How often does that happen in a title fight?
              Canelo was indeed a cherry-pick. How is it that Floyd protects Tank from Loma by saying Tank is too young at 23 to fight him, yet a 23 year old Canelo wasn't too young for Floyd?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                Wrong, in the prime of his career he refused to be slandered with false accusations of drug use, which he won an out of court settlement from Mayweather. A year later he accepts testing only to have the goal post moved by Floyd each time. Endless excuses to duck Manny in his prime. Floyd himself admits he marinated the fight for five years, and insists he deserves credit for being smart for making it a bigger fight.

                So Manny, the fighter who rematches tough opponents who he went life and death with, is somehow ducking Floyd, a guy who isn't known for his power and posed very little threat to him? Yeah ok.
                This is pretty much the definition of ignorance :-/

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                  Canelo was indeed a cherry-pick. How is it that Floyd protects Tank from Loma by saying Tank is too young at 23 to fight him, yet a 23 year old Canelo wasn't too young for Floyd?
                  Come on ghost this is embarrassing even for you.

                  Canelo had almost double the amount of fights at 23 that Tank has. Canelo is also the larger man. Tank is smaller and even though he has more pro fights, he hasn’t reached his prime while Loma is in his. Floyd was pst his athletic prime when he fought Canelo.
                  Things are not equal.

                  Whatever you feel about Loma/tank that doesn’t make Canelo a cherry pick. He just lost.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Come on ghost this is embarrassing even for you.

                    Canelo had almost double the amount of fights at 23 that Tank has. Canelo is also the larger man. Tank is smaller and even though he has more pro fights, he hasn’t reached his prime while Loma is in his. Floyd was pst his athletic prime when he fought Canelo.
                    Things are not equal.

                    Whatever you feel about Loma/tank that doesn’t make Canelo a cherry pick. He just lost.
                    And Loma has less pro fights than Tank. Tank also had 3x as many amateur fights than Canelo. Canelo was a cherry-pick, hence Floyd avoided a very lucrative rematch at all costs once Canelo hit his stride. He is still avoiding a very lucrative rematch with Manny and for good reason.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
                      This is pretty much the definition of ignorance :-/
                      Thanks, your non-response proved my point.

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