Lomachenkos level of competition is awful

[Affogato`]

Loma is my guy, but a lot of posters are right here. There is much in the way of a pro resume that is to be desired. Outside of Russell Jr and Rigo, the other wins are just good. He is currently a fighter with 1 great win in Russell and 1 very good win in Rigo. He needs to do so much more to be in the discussion for ATG. He needs to beat at least 2 of these guys Teofimo, Gervonta, Steveson and Haney to be considered an ATG.

One of the excuses I hear, as a Loma fan, is that he is only 15 fights in. The guy is 32 years old, he should have 30 fights already. No one should have advised him to stay in the olympics again when it was obvious that he was by far the best AM in the world. By staying in the olympic the second time, he cut his pro career short and in turn negatively affected his resume.

I want to believe in Loma, but he is already in decline. You could see that he has slowed down a little. 32 at heavyweight is young and yet at light weight it is old. Loma is a fighter who relies on his athletic ability a lot. He stays in the pocket and uses his natural gifts to avoid punishment. This will be harder and harder to do as he continues to age. So, I don't know if he will be able to beat the younger guys he needs to beat to prove himself an ATG. I hope he does, but I won't bet on it.

You got to believe in his adaptation to become an ATG
His speed is in decline but he can compensate with good defense.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Loma is my guy, but a lot of posters are right here. There is much in the way of a pro resume that is to be desired. Outside of Russell Jr and Rigo, the other wins are just good. He is currently a fighter with 1 great win in Russell and 1 very good win in Rigo. He needs to do so much more to be in the discussion for ATG. He needs to beat at least 2 of these guys Teofimo, Gervonta, Steveson and Haney to be considered an ATG.

One of the excuses I hear, as a Loma fan, is that he is only 15 fights in. The guy is 32 years old, he should have 30 fights already. No one should have advised him to stay in the olympics again when it was obvious that he was by far the best AM in the world. By staying in the olympic the second time, he cut his pro career short and in turn negatively affected his resume.

I want to believe in Loma, but he is already in decline. You could see that he has slowed down a little. 32 at heavyweight is young and yet at light weight it is old. Loma is a fighter who relies on his athletic ability a lot. He stays in the pocket and uses his natural gifts to avoid punishment. This will be harder and harder to do as he continues to age. So, I don't know if he will be able to beat the younger guys he needs to beat to prove himself an ATG. I hope he does, but I won't bet on it.

One of the best posts I've seen in a while. Green K.

I also think he has to beat two of those young guns to seal the deal. That actually would be a shortcut. But these guys are better than people think, even Ryan Garcia. Loma is boxed in.

For me, if he can beat Davis, it's sealed and delivered. Loma doesn't have too much time. I don't see the Lopez fight happening. Hopefully we get Davis straight, or one fight before.

[TonyGe]

You're a clown. Loma was old asf when he finally stopped beating on kids and went pro. His # of fights isn't special since he was old asf becoming pro. Tons did way more by his age. Don't forget Salido sonned him. A washed up and over the hill bum journeyman beat him.

This beating up on kids is something I've heard about many boxers that medal in the world championships or Olympics. It was also directed against Lennox Lewis. The fact is the top fighters are usually around the same age.

[Fists_of_Fury]

This beating up on kids is something I've heard about many boxers that medal in the world championships or Olympics. It was also directed against Lennox Lewis. The fact is the top fighters are usually around the same age.

Lomachenko was older than most when he turned pro. He was older than most of his opponents in the amateurs also. Way older in a lot of cases. The fact is these facts seem to trigger dumbass Lomachenko nut huggers that act like his low amount of pro fights is such a great thing for his accomplishments. When you count his age with his accomplishments he looks mediocre compared to legit ATG's his bunboys try to compare him with. Only clowns think his resume and accomplishments are on the level of ATG's.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I'll say this.

Loma's resume runs circles around Crawford's. And I would rate Loma higher on a P4P list because of it, until further notice.

[TonyGe]

Lomachenko was older than most when he turned pro. He was older than most of his opponents in the amateurs also. Way older in a lot of cases. The fact is these facts seem to trigger dumbass Lomachenko nut huggers that act like his low amount of pro fights is such a great thing for his accomplishments. When you count his age with his accomplishments he looks mediocre compared to legit ATG's his bunboys try to compare him with. Only clowns think his resume and accomplishments are on the level of ATG's.

I was referring to the ages of the top amature fighters. I wasn't talking about when they turned pro. Are you sure about what you are saying. I'm a fan of Golovkin and the same thing was said about him. When I checked the fights in which he won medals usually his opponents were about the same age as him.

[VirusTI]

One of the best posts I've seen in a while. Green K.

I also think he has to beat two of those young guns to seal the deal. That actually would be a shortcut. But these guys are better than people think, even Ryan Garcia. Loma is boxed in.

For me, if he can beat Davis, it's sealed and delivered. Loma doesn't have too much time. I don't see the Lopez fight happening. Hopefully we get Davis straight, or one fight before.

I agree, Davis is the best of them i think. If we get Lopez we can predict the Davis fight. If it's a close Loma win over Lopez, Davis probably beats Loma. If Loma walks through Lopez, the Davis fight is interesting. I think it looks like this Davis>Haney>Stevenson>Lopez>Garcia in terms of who is the best of them right now.

Floyd is smart and will wait out that Davis fight as long as possible and age Loma even more. That's what I would do.

[eco1]

I'm being serious, this guy is so hyped up, I remember this guy saying that he could have beaten 135lb Floyd in his first fight lol.

BUT honestly, when you look at his CV it's not a who's who, it's a who's HE?

Any time you talk about him fighting anyone actually good the "he's too big" excuses start.

You need to call him up, maybe a charity event or something. I am 100% sure you will put Loma on his rightful place!

[KingOfGlory]

In hindsight it's easy to discredit his resume but at the time Rigondeaux, Linares, and Walters were considered the top of their divisions.

[Goldie]

We're privileged that Loma turned pro at all. Plenty of eastern Europeans in similar positions didn't and wouldn't. Same with Cubans, albeit for a different reason. Many, if not most, of the greatest amateurs never turn pro.

There's not nearly as much incentive. Boxers who compete and win for countries like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, etc. (some of the best amateur boxing countries alongside Cuba) are nationwide heroes that their governments take very good care of afterward. Plus, an Olympic medal carries a lot more weight than a pro belt, at least in the eyes of their countrymen.

Oleg Saitov and Alexey Tischenko are just two relatively recent examples who never turned pro. Tischenko won 2 golds in 2 divisions just like Loma. Saitov won 2 golds and 1 bronze (one of only 5 men to win medals at 3 different Olympics).

They beat the best of the best and saw no need to pursue an overseas professional career with all of its politics. Can't really blame them.

Olympic and pro prize fighting are two completely different sports. Plenty of guys who were dominant in the amateurs didn’t do much of anything as pros.

We’re supposed to believe that these small poor Eastern European countries are paying amateur fighters as well as pro price fighters in the west? Lol this is a ridiculous post bro.