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  • restless_438
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    This is GREAT work champ.

    Not only do you resort to twisting everything you say, you're now throwing in random topics that have nothing to do with anything and accusing me of saying things I never said.

    Where did I EVER say anything about Winky and Taylor and the last round?

    Unreal.
    The Wright-Taylor thing is what we people who debate here at boxingscene call, an "example".

    I love how when you're wrong about something, you attack their points with words like "twisting" to try and make it seem like you're right.. Floyd's doing your brother Spinks a favor.. get over it, i'm sure Cory will be knocked off by the next guy that comes around (seriously, i'll go into detail as i'd favor the following against him: Ouma, Mosley, Quartey, Margarito, Collazo, the list could go on)
    Last edited by restless_438; 08-11-2006, 04:44 PM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Bozo_no no
      WOW.

      Baldomir 'defeated' Judah very narrowly. And when Spinks defeats Karmazin narrowly, that's 'sneaking by' huh?

      And what do you think any other top rated Welter would have done to Gatti?

      Just like your sig, you're compeltely twisting facts to try and present a point.

      Compeltely selective with everything you mention and how you say it.
      I think we are trying to point out the way in which Baldomir beat Judah versus the way Spinks beat Karmazin. Baldomir stalked Judah from the 7th round on and Judah looked like he was about to get KO'd. Spinks finished the fight hanging on for dear life. If you can't admit that one LOOKS better than the other you just aren't being objective. Also I give more credence to Baldomir's win over Zab Judah simply because Judah never KO'd him and never could KO him.

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        #53
        Originally posted by amagnin
        I think we are trying to point out the way in which Baldomir beat Judah versus the way Spinks beat Karmazin. Baldomir stalked Judah from the 7th round on and Judah looked like he was about to get KO'd. Spinks finished the fight hanging on for dear life. If you can't admit that one LOOKS better than the other you just aren't being objective. Also I give more credence to Baldomir's win over Zab Judah simply because Judah never KO'd him and never could KO him.
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        • Bozo_no no
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          #54
          Originally posted by restless_438
          The Wright-Taylor thing is what we people who debate here at boxingscene call, an "example".

          No, you just brought up a fight that has NOTHING to do with what we're discussing, and said:

          you want to complain about Winky not fighting in his last round with Taylor? (even though he actually won it?) try looking at the last TWO rounds in Spinks-Karmazin
          You don't even know what you're arguing.

          It started out with me pointing out how WEAK your sig was for mentioning fights from YEARS ago.

          Then, you switch subjects and try to discredit Spinks' win over Karmazin for being close, and then try and talk about Baldy's narrow win over Zab like it's a trump card.

          You don't even know what you're trying to say, failed to make any point, and have now twisted the subject several times on top of bringing up a compeletly different fight and accusing me of saying something about it I never said.

          You're getting more and more pathetic with each post.

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          • Bozo_no no
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            #55
            Originally posted by amagnin
            I think we are trying to point out the way in which Baldomir beat Judah versus the way Spinks beat Karmazin. Baldomir stalked Judah from the 7th round on and Judah looked like he was about to get KO'd. Spinks finished the fight hanging on for dear life. If you can't admit that one LOOKS better than the other you just aren't being objective. Also I give more credence to Baldomir's win over Zab Judah simply because Judah never KO'd him and never could KO him.

            That has nothing to do with anything.

            Spinks hadn't fought in a year, and won enough rounds to beat Karmazin. No one's denying he was running late. But when you win more rounds, you win the fight. Period.

            Baldmoir beat Judah by a round, and yes he finished storng. But everyone knows what a clown Zab is and was at that time. He did't show up for the fight at all, and it was still close.

            All I said is that when it comes right down to it, Floyd's going to compeltley outclass Baldomir.

            Spinks could at least win some rounds and make it interesting.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Bozo_no no
              You don't even know what you're trying to say, failed to make any point, and have now twisted the subject several times on top of bringing up a compeletly different fight and accusing me of saying something about it I never said.

              You're getting more and more pathetic with each post.
              There's no point in arguing with you.. you're not objective, you only look at points you want to look at.. if you're not going to be logical.. don't bother, the only person who's managed to look pathetic here is you. (Btw, people are gonna start to see that everytime your beat in a debate, you use the word "twisted" alot, so i'd cut back on that in the future. )

              btw, this whole "Zab didn't come to fight" **** is a complete copp out

              Spinks stands less of a chance with Mayweather than Baldomir does.. as i said, you watch your boy in the future, let's see how long he remains champ, i give him half a year (if he even fights that is, which he'll probably be forced info by governing bodies).. you quote me on that, if i turn out to be wrong, i'll admit to it
              Last edited by restless_438; 08-11-2006, 04:51 PM.

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #57
                Originally posted by restless_438
                There's no point in arguing with you.. you're not objective, you only look at points you want to look at.. if you're not going to be logical.. don't bother, the only person who's managed to look pathetic here is you. (Btw, people are gonna start to see that everytime your beat in a debate, you use the word "twisted" alot, so i'd cut back on that in the future. )

                btw, this whole "Zab didn't come to fight" **** is a complete copp out

                You're a joke.

                You just got caught talking out of you ass, tried to bring up a fight that had nothing to do with the topic and said I said things about it I never did.

                You never had any understanding of what was being discussed, and when you got made to look foolish you resorted to crying.

                You shouldn't be involved in discussions if you can't keep up with what's being discussed and need to resort to making things up.

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                • restless_438
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                  You're a joke.

                  You just got caught talking out of you ass, tried to bring up a fight that had nothing to do with the topic and said I said things about it I never did.

                  You never had any understanding of what was being discussed, and when you got made to look foolish you resorted to crying.

                  You shouldn't be involved in discussions if you can't keep up with what's being discussed and need to resort to making things up.
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                  the following is a complete "runaway" from the topic, ladies and gentlemen.. this is how a debate is lost, the loser resorts to insults and hence "runs away" from the topic

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                  • amagnin
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                    That has nothing to do with anything.

                    Spinks hadn't fought in a year, and won enough rounds to beat Karmazin. No one's denying he was running late. But when you win more rounds, you win the fight. Period.

                    Baldmoir beat Judah by a round, and yes he finished storng. But everyone knows what a clown Zab is and was at that time. He did't show up for the fight at all, and it was still close.

                    All I said is that when it comes right down to it, Floyd's going to compeltley outclass Baldomir.

                    Spinks could at least win some rounds and make it interesting.
                    I don't think Baldomir will win more rounds necessarily but I think he has a better chance to KO Floyd. And frankly I don't see either one of them(Spinks or Baldomir)winning a decision. Also you didn't address my post. While both Spinks and Baldomir had close fights against Judah and Karmazin, the fights flowed the opposite way. Spinks has a difficult style to figure out and Karmazin couldn't do it in time. But once he figured Spinks out, Spinks was powerless to do anything. On the other hand, Judah frustrated Baldomir early on with a difficult style but was dominated at the end of the fight. To me Baldomir LOOKED better in beating Judah than Spinks did against Karmazin.

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                    • Bozo_no no
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by restless_438
                      Spinks stands less of a chance with Mayweather than Baldomir does.. as i said, you watch your boy in the future, let's see how long he remains champ, i give him half a year (if he even fights that is, which he'll probably be forced info by governing bodies).. you quote me on that, if i turn out to be wrong, i'll admit to it
                      LOL, this just keeps getting better and better.

                      How is Spinks "my boy"?

                      Just because I've educated you on records, doesn't mean I like the guy.

                      I simply said he stands more of a chance than Baldomir, who I keep hearing has a puncher's chance with 12 KO's.

                      Spinks and Baldy have about the same amount of KO's, yet Baldomir has 20 more fights.

                      Baldomir is slow, telegraphs his shots, and his style makes him fodder for Mayweather.

                      At least Spinks has a chance to steal some rounds.

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