Comments Thread For: Usyk Aims To Become Undisputed Champion at Heavyweight

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He was fading and getting picked apart halfway through a 12 round fight by an opponent who was getting stronger and stronger every round... and you call that winning the fight?

So when did he start losing?

That round before he got knocked out.

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AJ will send him home with a nice retirement check. I don't think he would survive with Wilder for 12. Fury even got touched by Wilder in both fights but I don't see that level of size and punch resistance in Usyk. Don't give me that pity pat, angle, pity pat lomachenko stuff will work against the big boys in the heavyweight div with them leaning you and wearing you down round after round. excellent cruiserweight but i don't see him as a holyfield coming up in the heavyweight division.

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I can see Usyk beating Parker, Povetkin, Kownacki type guys but he would struggle against Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Dubois, etc.

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That round before he got knocked out.

Lol ... it doesn't work like that. Same as in long distance running, the guy who is in the lead half way through a race isn't necessarily winning it. If he's going flat out and other guys behind him are cruising, conserving energy, just waiting for the right moment to accelerate into top gear, then he definitely isn't winning! He may be in the lead, but that doesn't mean he is "winning"

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Lol ... it doesn't work like that. Same as in long distance running, the guy who is in the lead half way through a race isn't necessarily winning it. If he's going flat out and other guys behind him are cruising, conserving energy, just waiting for the right moment to accelerate into top gear, then he definitely isn't winning! He may be in the lead, but that doesn't mean he is "winning"

I said what I said. I had him winning before the knockout. You are arguing semantics. If he was leading the fight on my score card. Then he is winning the fight. Long distance race doesn’t matter because boxing doesn’t have to go 12 rounds to find a winner. It can 1 rounds. A 2 mile race is a two mile race. The only way a runner can win is by finishing the total two miles. Boxing you don’t have a half way point until you reach the 12th in theory.

Next question.

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That round before he got knocked out.

According to you, Bellew was winning the fight because he was ahead on points. So why do you say he stop winning the round before he got knocked out?

He was still ahead on points when he got knocked out, right up to the second when the ref waved him out. So according to your definition of "winning the fight" Bellew was on the deck, out cold, about to be waved "out" by the ref ... and he was still winning the fight!

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I said what I said. I had him winning before the knockout. You are arguing semantics. If he was leading the fight on my score card. Then he is winning the fight. Long distance race doesn’t matter because boxing doesn’t have to go 12 rounds to find a winner. It can 1 rounds. A 2 mile race is a two mile race. The only way a runner can win is by finishing the total two miles. Boxing you don’t have a half way point until you reach the 12th in theory.

Next question.

That's exactly what I'm saying to you!

In running and in boxing, being in the lead part way through the race or the fight doesn't always mean that you are winning. You can only win a race by being ahead at the finishing line, when the race ends. And you can only win a fight on points by being ahead when the bell rings at the end of the final round.

So being ahead on points, but fading and being picked apart after 7 rounds, is not "winning."


See what I'm saying?

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According to you, Bellew was winning the fight because he was ahead on points. So why do you say he stop winning the round before he got knocked out?

He was still ahead on points when he got knocked out, right up to the second when the ref waved him out. So according to your definition of "winning the fight" Bellew was on the deck, out cold, about to be waved "out" by the ref ... and he was still winning the fight!

I said he was starting to lose the fight. I had him up only by one point, however I notice he started to face out and I thought to my self he’s not going to make it.The next round he got knocked out.

But he was still winning on my score sheet but in my head he was beginning to fade .

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That's exactly what I'm saying to you!

In running and in boxing, being in the lead part way through the race or the fight doesn't always mean that you are winning. You can only win a race by being ahead at the finishing line, when the race ends. And you can only win a fight on points by being ahead when the bell rings at the end of the final round.

So being ahead on points, but fading and being picked apart after 7 rounds, is not "winning."


See what I'm saying?

But if the fight got called off due to a accidental head butted and went to the cards after the seven round, Tony would had been the winner of the fight for me.

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I said he was starting to lose the fight. I had him up only by one point, however I notice he started to face out and I thought to my self he’s not going to make it.The next round he got knocked out.

But he was still winning on my score sheet but in my head he was beginning to fade .

I understand your meaning now, and yes, we are only arguing about semantics.

I think Bellew was still ahead on 2 judges scorecards when the KO happened, btw. But Usyk always starts slow and finishes like a train, and Bellew was putting so much into his punches that I knew it was only a matter of time before he faded and Usyk took over.