"Too Fast" Fury vs "The Greatest" Ali: Who wins?

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #111
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
    - -Fact that U equate Wilt as one of the top 3 all time athletes ever with a lump like Shaq defines U as a fellow lump.

    The DeEvolution of Mankind after a run of evolution...thanks for the reminder!
    Hilarious that's you're takeaway from my post.

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      #112
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      Well said.

      And from a true Iron Mike fan at that.

      Fury is just the boxing version of Durant from the NBA. You've seen guys who were skilled shooters at his size but they could never move and handle the ball like a true guard. The combination of his literal complete skillset on top of being the size of a small ish center is what makes him unique and imo the best and most complete player in the NBA. Similarly there have been large fighters with either power, speed, or both with the ability to really box and move, but they weren't slicksters like Fury, nor switch hitters. Then you have Ali who was everything Fury is but smaller. We haven't had a guy who can move like a MW be over 6'5, be well over it. Fury is faster and slicker than some MWs even. I call him the HW Locche, Sweet Pea in Goliaths body for a reason. He is literally the HW Sweet Pea.

      I'd argue only Wilt and Shaq have the ability to dominate KD 1 on 1 in history. There are no Wilt or Shaqs in boxing though to oversize and bully, and trump Furys skill with power and muscle. It's really hard to pick a guy who can get by his defense, who has the power to either knock him down 3+ times in a fight, or who can keep him down, and harder still is it to find a guy you can confidently say can win on points by outboxing, who is probably the greatest pure boxer the division and sport has ever seen. And too many cats on here only look back to Johnson's era, boxing is way older than the queensberry rules, it goes back to the Greeks and Romans.
      Ali has too many fanboys blinded by their nostalgia glasses.

      It's simple, all one has to do is watch the Tyson vs Lewis fight and the size difference is clearly evident. And it wouldn't of mattered if they were both prime, Mike would still lose 10 out 10 times because he was way too small for Lewis.

      Fury dwarfed Wilder who was like what 6'6" or 6'7" ft tall. So even the hardest punches from the old school Heavyweight eras like Foreman, Shavers and Tyson will not phase or hurt Fury. It'll be like mosquito bites to him.
      Last edited by HandsofIron; 07-26-2020, 12:05 PM.

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        #113
        Originally posted by HandsofIron
        Ali has too many fanboys blinded by their nostalgia glasses.

        It's simple, all one has to do is watch the Tyson vs Lewis fight and the size difference is clearly evident. And it wouldn't of mattered if they were both prime, Mike would still lose 10 out 10 times because he was way too small for Lewis.

        Fury dwarfed Wilder who was like what 6'6" or 6'7" ft tall. So even the hardest punches from the old school Heavyweight eras like Foreman, Shavers and Tyson will not phase or hurt Fury. It'll be like mosquito bites to him.

        Agreed. I think Fury toys with a guy like Shavers.

        Oddly enough I think a guy like Marciano stands a better chance than many because he can get so low and he had tremendous power and stamina, yes Fury can pick him apart but Marciano would keep coming at him and in more intelligent ways than Chisora or Wilder did.

        Ali would still be fascinating to be because the figh level IQ and skillset of both would lead to some epic exchanges.

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          #114
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps

          Agreed. I think Fury toys with a guy like Shavers.

          Oddly enough I think a guy like Marciano stands a better chance than many because he can get so low and he had tremendous power and stamina, yes Fury can pick him apart but Marciano would keep coming at him and in more intelligent ways than Chisora or Wilder did.

          Ali would still be fascinating to be because the figh level IQ and skillset of both would lead to some epic exchanges.
          Marciano? Bro, Rocky weighed about 188 lbs, it would be criminal to put him vs a giant like Fury. Fury flattens him in one round, it isn't even worth discussing.

          Lennox Lewis, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko are mythical match ups worth mentioning vs Fury because they are around same size, weight wise.

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            #115
            Originally posted by HandsofIron
            Marciano? Bro, Rocky weighed about 188 lbs, it would be criminal to put him vs a giant like Fury. Fury flattens him in one round, it isn't even worth discussing.

            Lennox Lewis, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko are mythical match ups worth mentioning vs Fury because they are around same size, weight wise.
            Lol don't tell Marchegiano that.

            I'd love to see Fury go to war with a prime Vitali.

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              #116
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              Lol don't tell Marchegiano that.

              I'd love to see Fury go to war with a prime Vitali.
              I dunno why I'd care what some rando thinks.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                I dunno why I'd care what some rando thinks.
                Well said.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    Hilarious that's you're takeaway from my post.

                    - -It's my takeaway from U demonstrable immaturity.

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                      #120
                      Fury vs Li would be like, idk Ali vs George Groves

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