"Too Fast" Fury vs "The Greatest" Ali: Who wins?

[LoadedWraps]

Liston had a decent jab and his reach was only slightly less than Fury's but Ali's movement completely nullified his jab. If they were both stationary then Furys physical size would be a massive advantage but Ali's footwork and head movement causes Fury all sorts of problems. Like I said Cunningham who is even smaller than Alu was out-boxing Fury. Fury even admitted this and said he relied on his size and physicality to tire out Cunningham and he definitely wasn't green at that point.

Were going to have to disagree on this one, I can't see anyway that Fury could beat a fit and focused Ali.

Fury would cut the ring off and corral him with jabs and force Ali to a corner. Fury is one of the few fighters who would be able to keep up the necessary pace.

Cunningham dropped him and outboxed him in spots but Fury dominated him in the later rounds. There isn't much value in bringing up knockdowns when the fighter in question has no loss despite them.

[LoadedWraps]

[Rusty Tromboni]

Ali wouldn't last 7 rounds.

It's ****** to give him any chance of surviving against Fury.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Fury would cut the ring off and corral him with jabs and force Ali to a corner. Fury is one of the few fighters who would be able to keep up the necessary pace.

Cunningham dropped him and outboxed him in spots but Fury dominated him in the later rounds. There isn't much value in bringing up knockdowns when the fighter in question has no loss despite them.

Fury didn't need smelling salts to be revived against Hambone.

Fury got caught, off-balance, trying to go on the offense. That's not Fury today.

Cooper caught Ali with a punch he had been setting up over, and over, over again. And even after that scare, Ali never learned how to secure himself from a good left hook. Enter: Gil Clancy and his protege, Joe Louis.

Ali thought Frazier and Norton were too much for him, and needed rope-a-dope to handle an inexperienced Foreman. Against a monster like Fury, he's hopeless.

[Smash]

this would not be boaring in any way

"he ate a wild boar so i will punish him some more!"

[LoadedWraps]

this would not be boaring in any way

"he ate a wild boar so i will punish him some more!"

The buildup and hype and trash talk would be legendary.

[LoadedWraps]

[HandsofIron]

People need to understand that Tyson Fury is a Super Heavyweight and he is too big and too strong for the average run of the mill Heavyweight.

Fury kills Ali, even Mike Tyson would lose too.

[LoadedWraps]

People need to understand that Tyson Fury is a Super Heavyweight and he is too big and too strong for the average run of the mill Heavyweight.

Fury kills Ali, even Mike Tyson would lose too.

Well said.

And from a true Iron Mike fan at that.

Fury is just the boxing version of Durant from the NBA. You've seen guys who were skilled shooters at his size but they could never move and handle the ball like a true guard. The combination of his literal complete skillset on top of being the size of a small ish center is what makes him unique and imo the best and most complete player in the NBA. Similarly there have been large fighters with either power, speed, or both with the ability to really box and move, but they weren't slicksters like Fury, nor switch hitters. Then you have Ali who was everything Fury is but smaller. We haven't had a guy who can move like a MW be over 6'5, be well over it. Fury is faster and slicker than some MWs even. I call him the HW Locche, Sweet Pea in Goliaths body for a reason. He is literally the HW Sweet Pea.

I'd argue only Wilt and Shaq have the ability to dominate KD 1 on 1 in history. There are no Wilt or Shaqs in boxing though to oversize and bully, and trump Furys skill with power and muscle. It's really hard to pick a guy who can get by his defense, who has the power to either knock him down 3+ times in a fight, or who can keep him down, and harder still is it to find a guy you can confidently say can win on points by outboxing, who is probably the greatest pure boxer the division and sport has ever seen. And too many cats on here only look back to Johnson's era, boxing is way older than the queensberry rules, it goes back to the Greeks and Romans.

[QueensburyRules]

Well said.

And from a true Iron Mike fan at that.

Fury is just the boxing version of Durant from the NBA. You've seen guys who were skilled shooters at his size but they could never move and handle the ball like a true guard. The combination of his literal complete skillset on top of being the size of a small ish center is what makes him unique and imo the best and most complete player in the NBA. Similarly there have been large fighters with either power, speed, or both with the ability to really box and move, but they weren't slicksters like Fury, nor switch hitters. Then you have Ali who was everything Fury is but smaller. We haven't had a guy who can move like a MW be over 6'5, be well over it. Fury is faster and slicker than some MWs even. I call him the HW Locche, Sweet Pea in Goliaths body for a reason. He is literally the HW Sweet Pea.

I'd argue only Wilt and Shaq have the ability to dominate KD 1 on 1 in history. There are no Wilt or Shaqs in boxing though to oversize and bully, and trump Furys skill with power and muscle. It's really hard to pick a guy who can get by his defense, who has the power to either knock him down 3+ times in a fight, or who can keep him down, and harder still is it to find a guy you can confidently say can win on points by outboxing, who is probably the greatest pure boxer the division and sport has ever seen. And too many cats on here only look back to Johnson's era, boxing is way older than the queensberry rules, it goes back to the Greeks and Romans.

- -Fact that U equate Wilt as one of the top 3 all time athletes ever with a lump like Shaq defines U as a fellow lump.

The DeEvolution of Mankind after a run of evolution...thanks for the reminder!