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"Too Fast" Fury vs "The Greatest" Ali: Who wins?

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  • #91
    Originally posted by MartialMind View Post
    George Foreman no question and it wouldn't take him 15 rounds.

    I don't get why people are trying to make Fury out like he's invincible when he's lucky he didn't lose to Otto "Uber driver" Wallin?
    He has no real flaws. He gets caught show boating but he can do everything you can ask of a fighter in the ring. He isn't invincible in a sense that he can't be hurt or stopped but it will take someone who has multiple levels to their game, many wrinkles to their game.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
      Lol, I just call him Clay to throw casuals a curve ball.

      I honestly don't understand how you pick a slower, more limited fighter in Norton over Fury. A punchers chance but so do many from this same era.
      No you call him that because ur trolling thats obvious...

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      • #93
        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        I usually agree with you but Ali never stepped in like that and threw a over hand right from hell ,if so please inform me ,I haven’t seen a fight him getting under someone with conviction.

        Ali relied on picking guys apart and out playing them round by round , Fury with a current corner ? Can’t see Ali doing much but lasting 12 and not really winning rounds that makes it close . You need to press Fury to defeat him , Ali didn’t like doing that .
        I believe he threw a few overhand rights against Liston in the first fight with good success. We've never seen Ali fight someone quite as tall as Fury and he would likely alter his approach given the size difference. He has fought tall fighters though, Ernie terrible was 6.6 and Ali anhilated him.

        Ali would beat Fury to the punch, his hand speed was significantly faster than Fury and lets not forgot Ali's movement.

        Fury was the aggressor against Wilder, he was coming forward, that plays perfectly into Ali's style. Ali was simply too fast both in his footwork and handspeed and too technically good for Fury. If Fury was truly as good as everyone seems to think at the moment he wouldn't have struggled so much against fairly mediocre opposition Like John Mcdermott

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        • #94
          Fury would box Ali off the back foot in a southpaw stance, drilling him with that freight train Kronk jab until ali looks into the refs eyes with sincerity, tears and blood flowing, and mumbles "no, I don't want anymore of that man, hes crazy".

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              • #97
                Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
                I believe he threw a few overhand rights against Liston in the first fight with good success. We've never seen Ali fight someone quite as tall as Fury and he would likely alter his approach given the size difference. He has fought tall fighters though, Ernie terrible was 6.6 and Ali anhilated him.

                Ali would beat Fury to the punch, his hand speed was significantly faster than Fury and lets not forgot Ali's movement.

                Fury was the aggressor against Wilder, he was coming forward, that plays perfectly into Ali's style. Ali was simply too fast both in his footwork and handspeed and too technically good for Fury. If Fury was truly as good as everyone seems to think at the moment he wouldn't have struggled so much against fairly mediocre opposition Like John Mcdermott
                Fury was a very green prospect against McDermott , today my money has to shift towards Fury simply because Ali he got away with things because of his own length which is nullified by Fury , a jabber presented many problems for Ali ,one at 6”9 and inside fighting is not going to be good in that match up .

                Liston pressed Ali and was a better fight then history makes out but Fury won’t be lunging while leaving his face in the front ,Liston was also nearing the end of physical peak if not past it by then with shoulder issues ,Fury is very young right now still in today’s game .

                Let’s not get it mixed up Fury is not an all time great but he most likely wins this fight if they met there’s simply just to many things Ali himself doesn’t do to really put it on a guy like that for 12 rounds to win where Fury is allowed to fight back,....I think people forget there’s two fighters in the ring at times .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-17-2020, 09:21 PM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                  Fury was a very green prospect against McDermott , today my money has to shift towards Fury simply because Ali he got away with things because of his own length which is nullified by Fury , a jabber presented many problems for Ali ,one at 6”9 and inside fighting is not going to be good in that match up .

                  Liston pressed Ali and was a better fight then history makes out but Fury won’t be lunging while leaving his face in the front ,Liston was also nearing the end of physical peak if not past it by then with shoulder issues ,Fury is very young right now still in today’s game .

                  Let’s not get it mixed up Fury is not an all time great but he most likely wins this fight if they met there’s simply just to many things Ali himself doesn’t do to really put it on a guy like that for 12 rounds to win where Fury is allowed to fight back,....I think people forget there’s two fighters in the ring at times .
                  Fury is a future ATG. Otherwise good post.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                    Fury is a future ATG. Otherwise good post.
                    Maybe but he’s done little thus far and has a lot to catch up on. The way you guys go about other fighters outside Fury how would we get him an ATG status with what win ? If anyone was pushing more for that it’s me not you since I consider AJ a fight Fury should lose . Defeating AJ it would be a legit win over a sizeable boxer puncher for the first time besides Wlad who you guys called washed up .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-17-2020, 11:07 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Fury was a very green prospect against McDermott , today my money has to shift towards Fury simply because Ali he got away with things because of his own length which is nullified by Fury , a jabber presented many problems for Ali ,one at 6”9 and inside fighting is not going to be good in that match up .

                      Liston pressed Ali and was a better fight then history makes out but Fury won’t be lunging while leaving his face in the front ,Liston was also nearing the end of physical peak if not past it by then with shoulder issues ,Fury is very young right now still in today’s game .

                      Let’s not get it mixed up Fury is not an all time great but he most likely wins this fight if they met there’s simply just to many things Ali himself doesn’t do to really put it on a guy like that for 12 rounds to win where Fury is allowed to fight back,....I think people forget there’s two fighters in the ring at times .
                      Liston had a decent jab and his reach was only slightly less than Fury's but Ali's movement completely nullified his jab. If they were both stationary then Furys physical size would be a massive advantage but Ali's footwork and head movement causes Fury all sorts of problems. Like I said Cunningham who is even smaller than Alu was out-boxing Fury. Fury even admitted this and said he relied on his size and physicality to tire out Cunningham and he definitely wasn't green at that point.

                      Were going to have to disagree on this one, I can't see anyway that Fury could beat a fit and focused Ali.

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