Comments Thread For: Spence: I Don't Like American Guys Backing Fury Instead of Wilder

[theface07]

I agree with Spence.
The majority of the American boxers, mostly retired legends, and American fans didn't pick Fury to win because of Wilder's power; however, they rooted against Wilder.
The Brits always support their fighters. That's why their boxing scene has flourished.
I think behind closed doors, it bothered Wilder that his own country men didn't stand by him.
That would be discouraging to most fighters.

A great boxer would never let that get to him unless they are very vain and have an inflated ego that needs to be stroked on a daily basis. Wilder certainly seems to fit that bill. Ali was hated by most of America when he joined the Nation of Islam and dodged the draft. It didn't stop him. He came back, fought in classic matchup after matchup and won the hearts of fans everywhere. Foreman was hated by many. Mayweather was hated by more boxing fans than not but that was by design because he knew he'd sell a lot of tickets and PPVs with so many people wanting to see him lose.
Sugar Ray Leonard was disliked by a lot of white fans because of his evasive, defensive style. It didn't stop him one bit. I don't Wilder is cut from the same cloth as those HOF'ers.

[BoxingIsGreat]

wilder may be american but Fury is white, they will relate to that more.

I agree. It's always been like that in racist America.

[theface07]

I never knew what the hell The LDBC was til recently. Those dudes are not at all an accurate representation of Black fans. Theyre oddball extremists who do the same things that racist ass white people do.


I'm all for being proud of your heritage no matter who you are but once you start talking that White Supremecy, Black Supremecy or whatever you can go f-uck yourself.

I'm a Hispanic male but I don't root for every Hispanic fighter, nor do I think they're better than all the other fighters. I don't hate guys like Lomachenko because he's European. I don't hate Wilder because he's black. I love them because they're good entertaining fighters.

All the race sh-tt and siding with someone just cuz they're from the same country as you is bad for boxing.

I'm totally on board with everything you said. Blind patriotism is dangerous, not just for boxing. Germans were extremely patriotic in WWII and we all know what happened there. Israel are proud as hell of their country to the point where they don't even acknowledge Palastinians right to exist because they are religious zealots.
Extreme patriotism exists in North Korea as well. Look how that's working out.
To a lesser degree in my country, Quebec are extremely patriotic about their province to the point where they think Quebec should be a priority, should get special treatment and the rest of Canada should be second tier. It's total BS.

[deathofaclown]

The thing is Fury, is a polarising character but he still a character, so he’s going to get a lot of fans, even if he gets a lot that don’t like him.

Wilder is just dumb with no real personality, no a sense of humour, no sense of fun, nothing. so if you’re tuning into press conferences and watching the Build up to a fight and you’re a neutral or casual, you’re likely going to become a fan of the guy that makes you laugh a bit and seems a bit more relatable.

The thing with Wilder is he never even had that kind of menacing aura around him, even though he could punch with crazy power, so it was difficult to even become a fan of that aura because it wasn’t there. He never had that Mike Tyson kind of aura that people were a fan of and wanted to see.

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Not in the U.S. He is not. He is vilified by non-black boxing fans in America and the media alike. However, I have to admit that he is more popular among British boxing fans though in the U.K. However, Deontay Wilder has it worse. He is not only hated by white boxing fans in the U.S because of the color of his skin and race but is universally hated by the U.K. Boxing fans as well because of his American nationality.

What in the hell are you talking about?

Floyd is THE MOST POPULAR boxer EVER. He sold most PPV, went WWE, beat face of UFC, beat every boxer he faced.

He may not be beloved by all, but hes known by all...POPULARITY.

And I live in the US and I'm white. Some of my friends dislike him and whine like the kiddos on this website (cherrypick, etc), but most (white or not) appreciate how good he was.

Dont get it twisted though. They all know who he is.

I call that Bullshit! If Fury was a Black American boxer he would be just another good athlete envied and hated by racist white boxing fans. He stands out here only because he is white in the U.S. Now I don't know about Great Britain. You know I am telling the truth!

You're as simple as Donald Trump himself

Fury is funny, goofy, and crazy. He licked Wilders blood. What kind of loon?!?

I like Fury more than Wilder because Fury is likeable and Wilder is boring AF and is acting like some thug...hes not. It's a forced act and it shows

I also like Crawford more than any other fighter today. I like Canelo. I like Inoue, but I DON'T like GGG and I DONT like Manny. Some white, some not. I DONT like Spence and I DONT like Porter nor do I like Thurman, but I like BJS and I like Haney and I like Ryan Garcia.

Tank is like Wilder and is trying too hard to be Floyd. Give me Shakur any day. Tank reminds me of About Broke...just an accident waiting to happen.

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The thing is Fury, is a polarising character but he still a character, so he’s going to get a lot of fans, even if he gets a lot that don’t like him.

Wilder is just dumb with no real personality, no a sense of humour, no sense of fun, nothing. so if you’re tuning into press conferences and watching the Build up to a fight and you’re a neutral or casual, you’re likely going to become a fan of the guy that makes you laugh a bit and seems a bit more relatable.

The thing with Wilder is he never even had that kind of menacing aura around him, even though he could punch with crazy power, so it was difficult to even become a fan of that aura because it wasn’t there. He never had that Mike Tyson kind of aura that people were a fan of and wanted to see.

Wilder plays the black card, yells BOMB SQUAD, and talks about taking bodies.

Theres nothing interesting about that. It's an outplayed role and most WWE people do it better than him any way.

[theface07]

Errol, listen man. I'm a decades long boxing fan. I'm American and I'm black. I like Fury and want him to kick Wilder's ass again. Why? Because I like who I like, no matter where they're from. I love Breland, but I just never cared for Wilder. Wilder's personality rubs me the wrong way. Same way you just don't like Keith Thurman. Wilder is loud and arrogant acting. He talked **** about Mike Tyson, who I love. He says he could've beat any heavyweight in history. Not true at all. Breland is humble and smooth. Sugar Hill is the same way. Many fights I saw Wilder get outboxed and then his power bailed him out, then he talked **** afterwards like he's the best ever. I don't like that. That's why his skills never improved much. He was too big headed. Fury is loud but he's funny, he has personality and he has skills. So in boxing you just like who you like. I like other UK fighters throught history too. Some of them are: Ted kid lewis, peerless jim driscoll, jimmy wilde, calzaghe, prince naseem, lennox lewis, kell brook. I can talk all day about American fighters I like. Some are: sam langford, joe gans, jack blackburn, original joe walcott, jimmy mclarnin, canzoneri, billy petrolle, tiger flowers, harry greb, kid norfolk, henry armstrong, eddie booker, burley, holman williams, jack chase, lloyd marshall, jimmy leto, eddie cool, fred apostoli, freddie steele, ezzard, jersey joe, archie moore, freddie dawson, ike williams, johnny bratton, joe louis, pep, saddler, del flanagan, robinson, lamotta, basilio, curtis cokes, harold johnson, henry hank, charley joseph, georgie benton, freddie little, hagler, ali, holmes, frazier, aaron pryor, pernell whitaker, james toney, and on and on. A real fan doesn't care where a fighter is from. It's mainly all about can he fight

Great post, real and honest, no bias whatsoever. You are a credit to humanity! What I really like is you explained your opinion with references and justification. Most people just say "F" this guy, "F" that guy and have nothing valuable to offer. You sir, are a credit to this site. I wish more people thought that way. I am a white man who thinks the same as you. We like who we like based on their character and ring performance, not because they have the same skin color as us.
My ancestors are from England and Ireland (and possibly Mongolia since most Asians seem to think I have Mongolian or Japanese ancestory somewhere down the line) but that doesn't affect who I support in any way, shape or form. Boxing is probably the most culturally and racially diverse sport there is and as such, there is no place for racism or discrimination but that also means you can support whoever you want, regardless of skin color or nationality. That's the beauty of boxing, the ring is the ultimate equalizer. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from.

[Szef]

African American fighters and fans are the most dislikeable people in the sport.

Not all of them obviously, as some fighters like Hurd or many AA posters on here are very cool people, but a lot of them are

I used to think Spence is not like them in the past 12 months he has shown his true colours unfortunately

Nobody likes entitlement and AAs are the most entitled people I know. They are alsovery oblivious about that fact which makes them even more dislikeable. It is what it is.

When they were both coming up, I hated Fury and Wilder with passion. Check my posts from years ago. My hate for early Fury is well documented on here. Today he's one of my favorites because he is everything Wilder is not

Wilder and his fans are the most clueless phags in this sport. Q

[theface07]

In the U.S. There's no question that Fury's popularity is largely due to the fact that he is white and it is Bob Arum, Top Rank and ESPN who are the ones pushing this racial angle and agenda because it help sells tickets because there is nothing like a white heavyweight champion.

For instance, in his rematch with Wilder, Tyson Fury was introduced last; Which is very rare in boxing because he was not the champion at the time but Deontay Wilder was. Yet he was the featured attraction because he was white. The last time that happened in a heavyweight championship bout was back in 1982 between Gerry Cooney vs Larry Holmes who was also white.

It's obvious you are attempting to distort the truth with your racial theories but there is no truth to it. The simple truth is, Fury was more of a draw before he fought Wilder and more of a draw after he fought Wilder. People like his story including his rise from the ashes of drug abuse, gluttony and depression because so many people of all races suffer from these ailments.
You are attempting to make everything about race and I agree there is systematic racism in virtually every facet of society but the simple fact is, Fury was hated by most white people in the UK before he dropped out and came back but he won the hearts of fans with his recovery and subsequent success in the ring. You need to understand that there are universal truths and conditions that all people can relate to and this is why Fury has gained popularity, not just because of his resurgence as a top heavyweight but the path that got him there and his down to earth personality which includes his unpretentous family image.
Larry Holmes was a great businessman and thus made sure he got every dollar he was owed. He then invested in business which keeps his finances in check to this day. Do you actually think Holmes gave a damn that Cooney was introduced last? He made a killing from that fight! Furthermore, Cooney and Holmes became good friends after that bout so obviously any racial overtones produced by white and black supremacists before the fight didn't affect Larry.

[theface07]

Spence is right up until a point. Encouraging your national hero should be a priority, once it’s grounded in admiring his hard work, dedication, and ability to strategically keep winning.

I'm going to stop you right there. #1: There is freedom of opinion in most countries in the western world and you don't have to support somebody because they may be considered a national hero. #2: Since when was Wilder considered a national hero?? Joe Louis was a national hero. Sugar Ray Robinson was a national hero. Jackie Robinson was a national hero. Michael Jordan was a national hero. Wilder is just an obnoxious, ignorant, disrespectful, underskilled pro boxer with a powerful right hand. What has he done to be considered a national hero? This is just pure foolishness.