How good is the average American heavyweight boxer ?

[techliam]

The reason you're not understanding this is because you're looming at it as a competition so you can say "me too." And it's not a competition.
I was answering a question, as an Afro-American, that was asked about the state of Boxing in my country. And I answered in detail. The same can NOT be said for the UK because the UK does not have our same exact history nor. racial nor cultural issues- not to our extent- not as bloody, etc etc. There's no competition on that front. And therefore it all led to the answer I gave the OP in my post.
I'm sure something I said reminded you of a parallel case in your country. That's fine.

Well no, the competition angle you've made up is on you, nothing to do with me. I'll leave it with you

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is or what country you are from. I'm not sure why you feel it important to bring it up, to me at least

Back to what I said though, I was making a general point, and not directing the assumption at you. Nothing in your post actually refers to it, but I thought I'd make it clear now. I've seen the logic used numerous times on this board, that the US is losing potential great fighters to other economic interests, but other countries are not, or at least not to that extent. I'm saying that's simply not true, whatever the socio-economic reasons are behind it

[Ritz Kola]

Well no, the competition angle you've made up is on you, nothing to do with me. I'll leave it with you

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is or what country you are from. I'm not sure why you feel it important to bring it up, to me at least

Back to what I said though, I was making a general point, and not directing the assumption at you. Nothing in your post actually refers to it, but I thought I'd make it clear now. I've seen the logic used numerous times on this board, that the US is losing potential great fighters to other economic interests, but other countries are not, or at least not to that extent. I'm saying that's simply not true, whatever the socio-economic reasons are behind it

Once again:The reason you're not understanding this is because you're looming at it as a competition so you can say "me too." And it's not a competition.
I was answering a question, as an Afro-American, that was asked about the state of Boxing in my country. And I answered in detail. The same can NOT be said for the UK because the UK does not have our same exact history nor. racial nor cultural issues- not to our extent- not as bloody, etc etc. There's no competition on that front. And therefore it all led to the answer I gave the OP in my post.
I'm sure something I said reminded you of a parallel case in your country. That's fine.
As for what colors you pretend not to see: irrelevant when I'm discussing AMERICAN boxing. Try too remember you were confused and started this conversation to nowhere with me for some poor reason.

[OldTerry]

I understand the logic of the argument, that boxing isn’t as attractive to the bigger guys in the US anymore

But what I don’t understand is the assumption that it only happens in the US. This happens almost everywhere. If you’re a bigger sportsman in the UK for example, boxing isn’t going to be the first sport to go to either

If anything, the US had the advantage of having that economic allure for decades that other countries didn’t have. Now the playing field is far more balanced globally

I understand what you are saying but the sheer number of outstanding and large athletes that are playing NFL football and NBA Basket ball in the USA drains the field of potential heavyweight fighters in the USA. Also most of these heavyweight USA athletes from an early age gave all of their attention and training to playing ball. I'm sure that many of these same athletes would have been outstanding boxers had their focus been boxing from early on. My conclusion is that no boxer is any better than another boxer based on citizenship. The basis is individual talent which has to factor in size, athleticism, training and when development began.

[techliam]

Once again:The reason you're not understanding this is because you're looming at it as a competition so you can say "me too." And it's not a competition.
I was answering a question, as an Afro-American, that was asked about the state of Boxing in my country. And I answered in detail. The same can NOT be said for the UK because the UK does not have our same exact history nor. racial nor cultural issues- not to our extent- not as bloody, etc etc. There's no competition on that front. And therefore it all led to the answer I gave the OP in my post.
I'm sure something I said reminded you of a parallel case in your country. That's fine.
As for what colors you pretend not to see: irrelevant when I'm discussing AMERICAN boxing. Try too remember you were confused and started this conversation to nowhere with me for some poor reason.

Let’s not waste any more time then. Your politics and projections are yours alone. Good luck!

[Ritz Kola]

Let’s not waste any more time then. Your politics and projections are yours alone. Good luck!

Your own personal insecurities and delusions of politics that don't exist are yours alone. Have fun!

[techliam]

I understand what you are saying but the sheer number of outstanding and large athletes that are playing NFL football and NBA Basket ball in the USA drains the field of potential heavyweight fighters in the USA. Also most of these heavyweight USA athletes from an early age gave all of their attention and training to playing ball. I'm sure that many of these same athletes would have been outstanding boxers had their focus been boxing from early on. My conclusion is that no boxer is any better than another boxer based on citizenship. The basis is individual talent which has to factor in size, athleticism, training and when development began.

I agree with the argument. Of course if a lot of those other sportsmen instead turned to boxing, the US would have a much deeper HW pool. Possibly a few greats too

I just wanted to bring up the point that other countries have a similar ‘issue’, if you want to call it one. I wouldn’t say the US is disproportionately affected this way compared to most other countries

[TMLT87]

Most American hws are posted up in the paint or on the gridiron.

Most British HWs are on a rugby pitch. Most Russian HWs are on a hockey rink or wrestling.

This same thing applies to most countries. i'm not sure boxing has priority for HW sized athletes anywhere.