How good is the average American heavyweight boxer ?

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  • Gamer30168
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    #21
    As an American myself, when I survey the HW division right now, I think the American contingent looks pretty pedestrian. American HWs have a lot of work to do if they wanna reclaim some of the golden days of years past
    Last edited by Gamer30168; 06-14-2020, 01:34 PM.

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    • touch_of_sleep
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      #22
      Originally posted by 'b'
      Got it, so all the American Heavyweights, Cruiserweights etc. are fat. All the 5 foot to 6 foot tall males are 220 lbs. Makes sense......
      5'6"? Are we talking about males here?

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        #23
        Originally posted by touch_of_sleep
        5'6"? Are we talking about males here?
        No, we're talking about all males ranging from 5 feet tall to 6 feet tall. Presumably there are millions of those in America...so where are all the American champions within that range? MW, SMW, LHW etc.?

        Boxing isn't first world middle class USA vs UK anymore. As an example, can you tell me what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union and what affect did it have on boxing? Answer this. ("After the collapse of the Soviet Union, all americans became really fat and started playing football and basketball!")

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          #24
          Originally posted by 'b'
          No, we're talking about all males ranging from 5 feet tall to 6 feet tall. Presumably there are millions of those in America...so where are all the American champions within that range? MW, SMW, LHW etc.?

          Boxing isn't first world middle class USA vs UK anymore. As an example, can you tell me what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union and what affect did it have on boxing? Answer this. ("After the collapse of the Soviet Union, all americans became really fat and started playing football and basketball!")
          There are only 171 LHW pro boxers in America, a country with 165 million men.

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            #25
            Originally posted by touch_of_sleep
            There are only 171 LHW pro boxers in America, a country with 165 million men.
            Man they must just suck then right? How many take part in boxing and you're telling me only 171 could make the cut? Wow Americans must be really weak or something..../s

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              #26
              Originally posted by touch_of_sleep
              Here are the top 4 countries by total professional boxers

              Mexico: 4,016 pro boxers, 1 in 330,000 people becomes a boxer there

              UK: 1,046 pro boxers, 1 in 750,000 becomes a boxer

              Japan: 1,222 pro boxers, 1 in 900,000 becomes a boxer

              US: 3,345 pro boxers, 1 in 1,000,000 becomes a boxer


              I admit I was expecting the difference to be a bit wider.
              where u getting your stats from?

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              • BangEM
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                #27
                Big bum city - all bums like Wilder except Ruiz.

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                • touch_of_sleep
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                  #28
                  Boxrec.

                  Boxeoguide has them too, but they just take them from Boxrec. https://boxeoguide.com/search/country/us

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by techliam
                    I understand the logic of the argument, that boxing isn’t as attractive to the bigger guys in the US anymore

                    But what I don’t understand is the assumption that it only happens in the US. This happens almost everywhere. If you’re a bigger sportsman in the UK for example, boxing isn’t going to be the first sport to go to either

                    If anything, the US had the advantage of having that economic allure for decades that other countries didn’t have. Now the playing field is far more balanced globally
                    The reason you're not understanding this is because you're looming at it as a competition so you can say "me too." And it's not a competition.
                    I was answering a question, as an Afro-American, that was asked about the state of Boxing in my country. And I answered in detail. The same can NOT be said for the UK because the UK does not have our same exact history nor. racial nor cultural issues- not to our extent- not as bloody, etc etc. There's no competition on that front. And therefore it all led to the answer I gave the OP in my post.
                    I'm sure something I said reminded you of a parallel case in your country. That's fine.

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                      #30
                      How did you find that statistic?

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