Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Might Fight Golovkin, Freddie Roach Says

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Ggg is past prime but coming off bad performance doesn't mean your shot, ggg explained reason.
Pac s come off many bad performances and came back.

Pac is an ATG and Top 25 fighter ever. GGG is very, very, very far from that. Pac has legitimately succeeded across 5 or 6 weight divisions...GGG haant even outright won 1 division in his entire career.

You simplify things so much that beating people coming off bad performances is easy and che rry picking and not brave? So if Pac fights callum smith after bad last performance against ryder it's a cherry pick and not a risk? Nothing more than cott o beating sergio?

Well theres a mental component to losing and having tough fights. Mannys win over Cotto at a CW while he was working with a new trainer coming off TWO LOSSES (Clottey decision was very favorable for Cotto) was phenomenal matchmaking. And Cottos 1st loss was brutal as he was cheated from his undefeated career...and Cotto took a beating there

Fighting Mosley after Floyd and after journeyman Mora drew with him was yet again phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting DLH after losing to Floyd and having his orbital bone broken by Steve Forbes - a guy with like 14 losses and 5 KOs (no power) - at a weight Oscar hadn't made in 7 years...then on fight night Manny weighing MORE than DLH. Phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting Margs after he gets TKOd and squeaks by a journeyman in a tuneup with a CW and rehydration clause...phenomenal matchmaking.

Roach is a good trainer and an even better matchmaker. Manny did his part though and delivered when he had to, but he definitely took certain fights at very advantageous times. And to pretend that doesnt matter just shows you have no personal experience with the sport. Losing and getting beaten definitely influences you.

That's why Manny took 1 whole year off before he fought Rios...he got slept and needed a long break.

That's why GGG took 9 months off after Canelo 2 and came back to a tuneup.

Taking losses and beatings DO MATTER and its reflected in the sport every day and historically

For God's sake Pac s win over Ggg would be greatest win of all time, when you add it into everything else Pac has did, literally in last fight.
Your post is just wrong, nothing right about your post, apart from last sentence

If Pac were to fight and beat GGG it would definitely not be a GOAT win...you're showing your colors with that post. It would be a good win though but not even the best win in the past decade...

However, if Pac fights and beats Canelo....now you can actually make a case because that would be something. Unlike GGG, Canelo IS in HIS PRIME and has had success from 154-175 winning titles along the way. Fighting and beating Canelo right now at age 41 or 42 would be something special. Very special. Like in the conversation of Best individual win EVER.

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Golvokin is not what he was and while manny isnt either he’s still very fast and his legs are still strong enough to possibly avoid golovkin’s power shots and win a decision.

[Bluebird]

Maybe Pac should fire Roach again, it’s a ****** idea to have Pac fight in any weight class above welterweight especially now that he’s 41 years old. He just wants to make money at Pac’s expense.

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Maybe Pac should fire Roach again, it’s a ****** idea to have Pac fight in any weight class above welterweight especially now that he’s 41 years old. He just wants to make money at Pac’s expense.

Pac was the one who bought the topic not roach.

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Pac is an ATG and Top 25 fighter ever. GGG is very, very, very far from that. Pac has legitimately succeeded across 5 or 6 weight divisions...GGG haant even outright won 1 division in his entire career.



Well theres a mental component to losing and having tough fights. Mannys win over Cotto at a CW while he was working with a new trainer coming off TWO LOSSES (Clottey decision was very favorable for Cotto) was phenomenal matchmaking. And Cottos 1st loss was brutal as he was cheated from his undefeated career...and Cotto took a beating there

Fighting Mosley after Floyd and after journeyman Mora drew with him was yet again phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting DLH after losing to Floyd and having his orbital bone broken by Steve Forbes - a guy with like 14 losses and 5 KOs (no power) - at a weight Oscar hadn't made in 7 years...then on fight night Manny weighing MORE than DLH. Phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting Margs after he gets TKOd and squeaks by a journeyman in a tuneup with a CW and rehydration clause...phenomenal matchmaking.

Roach is a good trainer and an even better matchmaker. Manny did his part though and delivered when he had to, but he definitely took certain fights at very advantageous times. And to pretend that doesnt matter just shows you have no personal experience with the sport. Losing and getting beaten definitely influences you.

That's why Manny took 1 whole year off before he fought Rios...he got slept and needed a long break.

That's why GGG took 9 months off after Canelo 2 and came back to a tuneup.

Taking losses and beatings DO MATTER and its reflected in the sport every day and historically



If Pac were to fight and beat GGG it would definitely not be a GOAT win...you're showing your colors with that post. It would be a good win though but not even the best win in the past decade...

However, if Pac fights and beats Canelo....now you can actually make a case because that would be something. Unlike GGG, Canelo IS in HIS PRIME and has had success from 154-175 winning titles along the way. Fighting and beating Canelo right now at age 41 or 42 would be something special. Very special. Like in the conversation of Best individual win EVER.

Canelo (who earns $33 million per fight) would enforce a Rehydration Clause on Manny. Manny can't exceed 150 on fight night while the bout is at the 160 weight limit. $10 per view on DAZN (monthly subscription then cancel) and Manny is the A Side who deserves $50+ million for the risk (where's the profit?).... Naw, we want GGG who beat Canelo twice IMO and will demand less of the cut (might make financial sense to Manny).

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Pac is an ATG and Top 25 fighter ever. GGG is very, very, very far from that. Pac has legitimately succeeded across 5 or 6 weight divisions...GGG haant even outright won 1 division in his entire career.



Well theres a mental component to losing and having tough fights. Mannys win over Cotto at a CW while he was working with a new trainer coming off TWO LOSSES (Clottey decision was very favorable for Cotto) was phenomenal matchmaking. And Cottos 1st loss was brutal as he was cheated from his undefeated career...and Cotto took a beating there

Fighting Mosley after Floyd and after journeyman Mora drew with him was yet again phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting DLH after losing to Floyd and having his orbital bone broken by Steve Forbes - a guy with like 14 losses and 5 KOs (no power) - at a weight Oscar hadn't made in 7 years...then on fight night Manny weighing MORE than DLH. Phenomenal matchmaking.

Fighting Margs after he gets TKOd and squeaks by a journeyman in a tuneup with a CW and rehydration clause...phenomenal matchmaking.

Roach is a good trainer and an even better matchmaker. Manny did his part though and delivered when he had to, but he definitely took certain fights at very advantageous times. And to pretend that doesnt matter just shows you have no personal experience with the sport. Losing and getting beaten definitely influences you.

That's why Manny took 1 whole year off before he fought Rios...he got slept and needed a long break.

That's why GGG took 9 months off after Canelo 2 and came back to a tuneup.

Taking losses and beatings DO MATTER and its reflected in the sport every day and historically



If Pac were to fight and beat GGG it would definitely not be a GOAT win...you're showing your colors with that post. It would be a good win though but not even the best win in the past decade...

However, if Pac fights and beats Canelo....now you can actually make a case because that would be something. Unlike GGG, Canelo IS in HIS PRIME and has had success from 154-175 winning titles along the way. Fighting and beating Canelo right now at age 41 or 42 would be something special. Very special. Like in the conversation of Best individual win EVER.

Yes, I think it's be the best win of all time. GGg no2 best middleweight in world, who many think beat the man your raving about.
40x 160 guys tried but failed. Gold medallist at world championships.

Srl and s rr beating middleweight was a big, big deal and they're natural WWs. Pac s not Even natural LWW, maybe a natural super featherweight, but started flyweight? Crawford would be underdog against ggg as would spence, as would current LMW champ
Pac beating gg g would be best win of all time. He's older, 30 more fights, more wear and tear.
All the ingredients there to make it best win ever and it's not close. But don't worry, fights not happening and Pac wouldn't win anyway so no need for the early excuses.

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That’s not happening!

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Click bait....****** article. This well never happen, cmon Roach, next you'll say Manny might fight Beterbiev.

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GGG is shot. Well past his prime. He needs to get the fk out of boxing now.

GGG is still winning tho. 90% thought GGG won against the red juice head and the second fight was razor edge close. Chenko is a good fighter but was fighting very dirty against G ( ala Andre Ward)but still G won. Chenko looked like a raccoon after the fight. GGG should get out of boxing?

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Canelo (who earns $33 million per fight) would enforce a Rehydration Clause on Manny. Manny can't exceed 150 on fight night while the bout is at the 160 weight limit. $10 per view on DAZN (monthly subscription then cancel) and Manny is the A Side who deserves $50+ million for the risk (where's the profit?).... Naw, we want GGG who beat Canelo twice IMO and will demand less of the cut (might make financial sense to Manny).

Speak for yourself. 99% of people that want Manny to genuinely attempt GOAT status know it's the Canelo fight.

Canelo is too big and too good and in his prime.

Beating GGG now is still a good win but it's nowhere near as good as beating Canelo. For a 41-42 Manny to move up 2 weight divisions and beat a 30 year old - absolute prime - and Top 5 PFP in Canelo whose been a champion from 154-175...at 160. That is honestly GWAT. Like the single greatest.

Beating GGG isnt even the best in the past decade.

So pick which you like XD XD XD

And not surprising Pac fans cant put two and two together...again.