Comments Thread For: Goossen: Fury Learned New Game In One Camp; Why Can't Wilder Learn To Fight Inside?

[Marchegiano]

Yeah I get that, Fury's name albeit slightly diminished at the time would help bring in the money but whatever way you cut it he was picked to get beat and to put a big name on Wilder's record for minimal risk. If it was all about the money he would have obviously signed to fight AJ.

What is the point of padding a record? What is the point of being a hypejob?


Crazy thought; for money maybe?

[jbpanama]

The only thing I would say to Goossen and he should know better. It’s easier for a fundamentally sound fighter to make the adjustment the other way and sit on his punches and become a power fighter. But it’s much, much harder for a fighter that depends on power to make the adjustment to be a fundamentally sound fighter, that takes years to develop from the amateurs, international competition, and throughout the pros.

It would be similar in football to asking a defensive end to play OT. All the intricacies and techniques are more difficult to pick up from each position. That would be what we are asking Wilder to do. What Fury did was similar to a “running” QB in college, switching to play RB in the pros. The fundamentals and vision and seeing the field are already there.

True Story...Wilder does appear to be A one Trick Pony...

[jbpanama]

What is the point of padding a record? What is the point of being a hypejob?


Crazy thought; for money maybe?

It is now apparent why His Opposition was carefully Selected...

[LA_2_Vegas]

Fury's inside game has always been what separated him from the rest to me and I've probably sounding like a kook for many years trying to explain that - I'm pretty sure Goosen must know this wasn't just something he picked up. And I'm not saying he's James Toney on the inside just that he was more adept than the other prospects at the time AJ and Wilder. He knows his way around.

Like someone else said, it reappeared in the Wallin fight. It was there after the Cunningham knockdown. I thought I first saw some of the inside game against McDermott I. How he fought in those sequences was exactly how I hoped he would fight Wilder and I know there were others thinking the same. Everyone except maybe Ben Davidson, even though he knows Wilder really well.

I believe that he was let go because he respected Wilder's weaknesses too much instead of attacking them.

Fury has outclassed Wilder is two different ways now, the only place where they haven't fought extensively is midrange. I do think tht is where Fury can be attacked

[lion33lit]

Fury didn't "LEARN" how to fight on the inside ! He all night "LEANED" his 300lb behemoth weight into a TWIG figure that suffered with self inflicted clown costume lethargy!

The few legal shots Fury threw, and is KNOWN to throw are never EVER puncher lethal! Lets not get it TWISTED!

I agree with the JZ's unrelated quote on this one, "You can't change a player's (WHOLE) game in the ninth inning" when it comes to boxing in ONE camp alone.....

Also, Fury's OPEN GLOVE policy afforded him some GREAT MMA KNUCKLE TAPED shots! Incorporating the 'NEW GAME' headlocks ALSO worked its way into Fury's NEW strategy!

How Wilder was able to continue after suffering that Kronk style Hippo Hurricane Heat strategy is beyond me!!

The lethargy EXCUSE, combined with Fury's CHEATER tactics(?), turned Wilder into a brutalized victim of crowd frenzy and nervous ref syndrome!

Wilder is a SURVIVOR with a CHAMPIONS heart , even after suffering at the hands of Furys crazed out NEW cheater camp stategy!

[Sweden2716]

Wilder was exposed. Wilder thru-out his career has just knocked out a bunch of tomato cans. The heavyweight division is so poor and filled with no skilled fighters, just big men with no skills. (Fury has decent skills)

[Corelone]

Fury is a mauler, boxing got him knocked down and cut bad. He may be good at boxing, but he's better ugly.

[ShoulderRoll]

The problem is that it's not just an inside game that Wilder needs.

He also has to learn how to fight going backwards, when someone is pressing forward on him and applying pressure.

[McLife]

"Wilder is an aggressive front foot fighter, but he can’t fight on the back foot. He hasn’t even learned to jab. He hasn’t even learned how to throw a hook properly. It’s just the right hand. Deontay Wilder is going to get beaten up again.”

Oddly, Dillian Whyte's particular style and what he does best would exploit every Wilder weakness.

If they fought I would put money on a KO. In truth, I would bet twice as much on Wilder avoiding Whyte all together....but how do you bet on a fight that never happens?

Bummer.

I feel for Dillian. He would 100% expose Wilder. he should've gotten that figh..

[Ant1979]

not reading all that, carry on

Thought you did well lasting that long pal.