Comments Thread For: Goossen: Fury Learned New Game In One Camp; Why Can't Wilder Learn To Fight Inside?

[Ant1979]

Didn’t fury beat wladimir though?

Yeah but at the time of a potential unification between Wilder and Klitschko. Fury was busy making Scarface look like a social worker while getting weighed weekly at the local scrap yard.

If you're questioning the validity of the Klitschko name he would have represented the best on Wilder's record by a countrymile and by definition you question the validity of all the names on his resume.

[DougalDylan]

Wilder is the lighter, more athletic man. He should use that to his advantage. Work on stamina, speed, foot movement, feints, angles, forcing Fury to expend all of his energy while getting nailed with jabs and counters.

Fury has the speed and reflexes .. Wilder has none you can't reverse that in a camp.
Wilders coach said they give him the plan and he ignores it.
If Wilder didn't try to fight on the inside, Furys faster, it'll nullify Wilders power and at any point Fury could grab him go into a clinch and drain him with his greater weight.

Wilders's years of cherry picks have left him open to this. He'd need to learn to jab to keep him at range, fire some body shots with meaning to tag him and take some power and energy to slow hi, down (allegedly Whyte found this to work in sparring) and stop walking back in straight lines with a please punch me sign on his head. Its easy to say but you can't learn that in months at this level.

Fury has two weaknesses ..
1) His punch power ain't the best.
2) If he's not up for the fight he's lazy and can come in unprepared. He's looked bad against the lower tier.

[SkillspayBills]

Jay Deas is a completely amateur trainer who lucked into Wilder walking into his gym. He should have been replaced but I understand how Wilder feels about loyalty.

[2ndroundko]

I'm not bias, just a fan who wanted to see a match-up for all the marbles.

You look at Wilder's record and he's clearly risk averse. Like I wrote on a previous post, if you truly believed you could beat a prime Mike Tyson would you have a record like his? Nor would I...

As a result of this fact I find it hard to believe he wanted the fight more than AJ who to his credit had 2 unifications in a fraction of the time as a World Champion.

I can see the difficulties in dealing with Hearn but that doesn't explain why Wilder made no attempts to unify before AJ. A potential Klitschko unification with the WBA on the line would have been huge in Vegas. But that's on record as being a step too far for Finkel.

not reading all that, carry on

[miniq]

Fury has shown many different styles of fighting through his career

He can fight in both stances

He is extremely versatile & can adapt to any situation

and he is the biggest HW by miles at 6'8" 270 pounds

he is unbeatable

You can't outbox him and you can't outfight him.

Against these DUMB heavyweights like Whyte, Joshua & Wilder they don't have A CHANCE

[Mario g]

Yeah I get that, Fury's name albeit slightly diminished at the time would help bring in the money but whatever way you cut it he was picked to get beat and to put a big name on Wilder's record for minimal risk. If it was all about the money he would have obviously signed to fight AJ.

Yep I agree 110%

[eco1]

If I was Bumsquad I would not take the 3rd fight with Fury.

But I would do exactly what he is doing, saying he will, knowing that come October he won't have to do it.

I would go out there and get maybe 34-35 soft touches and 4-5 more rematches with Stiverne and Ortiz before fighting another elite level boxer.

[eco1]

The problem with Wilder at this point isn't even physical, it is and will be mental.

[miniq]

The problem with Wilder at this point isn't even physical, it is and will be mental.

He won't be able to get over the mental side. He was crying after the weigh in on the first fight

and he was a bag of nerves for the second fight. Pacing around like a madman in his locker room.

Third fight there is nothing to lose so maybe he can pull himself together.

Can he do any worse? probably not.

[Marchegiano]

'I feel I really didn’t know how to fight until I got with ‘Sugar Hill.’ is central to this man's line of thinking, but, somehow lost in these comments.


Whether you agree or not is irrelevant when you go on talking **** like "but Fury boxing IQ doe". From the man himself, no, that's not it. A proper trainer is why Fury learned new techniques.