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  • #21
    I don't think the jab improvement by itself will change the outcome of the fight.
    Wilder's movement is not good, his legs are mired in one place. He drags his legs slowly.
    Fury is bigger and heavier but so quick and light on his toes.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
      I’m not sure wilder can do that at this point. You are exactly right about his boxing skill versus stiverne in the first fight. It was after the duhapaus fight where he started to wait and wait and wait and wait and move backward flat footed waiting for right hand openings. I saw it taking hold against Molina and it was in full swing by the time he fought szpilka. It’s been the same ever since. It’s a terrible style and I’ve complained about it for years now. I suspected fury would be intelligent enough to adjust and take advantage of that flaw. I’m not sure wilder is humble and intelligent enough to adjust back to what needs to be done. His corner is inept, and he is incredibly stubborn himself. Somewhere along the way he got it into his mind that he could fight exactly the same way against every opponent and that his right hand would save him each and every time
      Completely agree, in the aftermath of that one-sided beatdown I've pretty much referenced every point you've made here albeit over a series of posts.

      His lack of humility is a real worry, judging by that ridiculous video he released on Instagram it's difficult to discern the extent to which he's been humbled. Maybe that was all a front and he and his team are hard at work, planning a redeeming strategy but I'm not holding my breath.

      Given what's at stake and the fact that if he loses he could be out of title contention for a long time (if not for good); you would have thought his paymasters would have put pressure on him to make significant changes.

      I suppose we'll see how it all unfolds but like you I not sure Wilder is capable of of doing what's required to turn this mess around.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Ant1979 View Post
        Completely agree, in the aftermath of that one-sided beatdown I've pretty much referenced every point you've made here albeit over a series of posts.

        His lack of humility is a real worry, judging by that ridiculous video he released on Instagram it's difficult to discern the extent to which he's been humbled. Maybe that was all a front and he and his team are hard at work, planning a redeeming strategy but I'm not holding my breath.

        Given what's at stake and the fact that if he loses he could be out of title contention for a long time (if not for good); you would have thought his paymasters would have put pressure on him to make significant changes.

        I suppose we'll see how it all unfolds but like you I not sure Wilder is capable of of doing what's required to turn this mess around.
        This man and his corner actually were comfortable giving away rounds....there were times when he would literally lose every round. Who didn’t see defeat coming with that? It’s a terrible, horrible, strategy.....possibly the worst style at that level ever. Who on their right mind thinks it’s kosher to give away rounds?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
          This man and his corner actually were comfortable giving away rounds....there were times when he would literally lose every round. Who didn’t see defeat coming with that? It’s a terrible, horrible, strategy.....possibly the worst style at that level ever. Who on their right mind thinks it’s kosher to give away rounds?
          Yes, it's a bit of a concern. Against top level opposition Wilder would only win rounds via knockdown's or KO's.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Monzon99 View Post
            Rigged fixed frauds like wilder do not improve by winning 50 rigged fake fights and dives.

            The plan was to rig Wilder into a fake couterfeit KO king by winning all fake fights. But the fraud didn't work and the big money never came. The fans realized wilder was a protected fraud and refused to pay to watch rubbish.

            This forced haymon (after ducking AJ) to make a deal with Fury who needed money after his two year hiatus. Fury carried the alabama fraud in the first fight. The Arum bought into Fury. Haymon could not buy off Fury in the rematch and we saw the real wilder was nothing but a bum in the disguise of 50 rigged fake fights.

            Fraud fake fighters like wilder don't improve. The only way to improve is to face real adversity and to figure out how to overcome a real test. Wilder and his team went for the fixed route, they had no confidence to be a real fighter, to take risks and learn how to overcome adversities.

            Haymon and wilder are terrible for the sport and should be boycotted out of the sport and sent to WWF.
            Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not all out to get you

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            • #26
              Originally posted by wileyhemi View Post
              Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not all out to get you

              Bring. it.

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              • #27
                be born again and baptized?

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                • #28
                  Wilder doesn't need to throw jabs, he needs to come forward and throw combination punches in bunches and try setting up to land his left hook.

                  Loading up on single punches at a time is going to get him either outpointed or stopped because he is being outpunched by Tyson Fury by some 2 or 3 to 1 margin or so.

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