Again, 90s heavyweights are very overrated

[JakeTheBoxer]

I’m a big George Foreman guy. I rooted for him and I still think he would have beaten Tyson even at 40-something.

But let’s not pretend George Foreman proves the 1990s was overrated.

The 1970s and 1990s are the two deepest eras in heavyweight history and there’s no arguing against that.

Plus, this is George Foreman in the 90s besides KOing bums. He was hardly dominant:

• Lost almost every round to Evander Holyfield.

• Had a razor thin decision win in an absolute war against Alex Stewart.

• Lost almost every round to Tommy Morrison.

• Lost almost every round to Michael Moorer but landed one lucky punch and won.

• Got a razor thin and controversial decision over Axel Schultz. It was so close an immediate rematch was ordered by a world championship sanctioning body. Foreman vacated the title instead of taking the rematch.

• Won a split decision over Lou Savarese.

• Lost a decision to hand picked Shannon Briggs. (I thought Foreman won big and that it was a bad decision)

So let’s not pretend he was something other than an all-time great who got every shot possible and landed one punch in 36 rounds against top 10 guys.

I didn`t say he was dominant, I said he was one of top players.

He stopped Moorer, the guy that beat Holyfield.

Top guys from 90s:

Lennox
Bowe
Mike
Holyfield
Foreman

Mike fought Lennox and Holyfield only. Foreman fought Holyfield only. Bowe fought Holyfield only. Only Holy fought all other guys.

Not a deep era at all.

[kidbazooka]

Ugh, you Brits and your crazy theories.

George Foreman got demolished by Evander Holyfield and Tommy Morrison.

And Anthony Joshua got demolished by morbidly obese Mexican who's body is far worst than Foremans, and didn't have anywhere near the skill or power that Foreman had. And then spent the entire rematch running from a guy who didn't even train for the fight just to survive and get a decision.

George Foreman would've decapitated Andy Ruiz in any era, the '70s, the '90s, or now.

Tyson Fury's the best HW in the world and should've lost to McDermott and got knocked down by a cruiserweight in Steve Cunningham, a guy without any meaningful wins at HW.

You guys should stick to sports you know, like Rugby or Cricket.

Tyson Fury got knocked down by a scrowny black cruiserweight.

Right?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Ugh, you Brits and your crazy theories.

George Foreman got demolished by Evander Holyfield and Tommy Morrison.

And Anthony Joshua got demolished by morbidly obese Mexican who's body is far worst than Foremans, and didn't have anywhere near the skill or power that Foreman had. And then spent the entire rematch running from a guy who didn't even train for the fight just to survive and get a decision.

George Foreman would've decapitated Andy Ruiz in any era, the '70s, the '90s, or now.

Tyson Fury's the best HW in the world and should've lost to McDermott and got knocked down by a cruiserweight in Steve Cunningham, a guy without any meaningful wins at HW.

You guys should stick to sports you know, like Rugby or Cricket.

And your favorite hw Mike Tyson was beaten by a journeyman when he was 24 years old.

And I am not even a Brit, lol.

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All these old HWs are overrated.

None of them could handle a 280lb Kronk Fury.

[TMLT87]

90s HW scene was definitely significantly better than todays BUT theres still rose tinted glasses involved, while the modern HW era gets too much criticism. I think Fury would be a consistent top 5ish HW in the 90s, Joshua top 10. Guys like Wilder and Ortiz would find themselves slipping into the top 10 occasionally too. People forget that you had the likes of Jorge Luiz Gonzalez and Michael Bentt making annual top 10 HW lists at times back then. It wasnt a division of Lennoxs and Holyfields.

[PRINCEKOOL]

This era consist of 4 fighters, then there is big gap to the following pack 'The following pack consist of fighters who are not really that dangerous'.

The 90's top 4 where Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe & Mike Tyson. The following pack was by some margin way more dangerous than today's following pack, fighters such as Micheal Moorer, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall, Herbie Hide, Ike Ibeabuchi, Francis Botha 'Then there was a 3rd wave of heavyweights after the second tier that was also dangerous'.

Deontay Wilder would of been knocked out in the 90's multiple times, there was just too many heavyweights that where technically Superior to the fighters active today. Even if Wilder avoided the big boys, fighters from that following pack have a high chance of sparking him out 'Wilder does not reign as champion for so long in any other era'.

Note: You only have to check video tapes to understand that the 90's heavyweights generally where better technically than today's fighters. Even Fury in my opinion is still a clumsy heavyweight, that cumbersome heavyweight that Haye saw is still inside of him. Tyson Fury is the number 1 heavyweight now, but when it is all said and done 'Joshua may come out on top, purely due to his near psychopathic work ethic'.

[JakeTheBoxer]

This era consist of 4 fighters, then there is big gap to the following pack 'The following pack consist of fighters who are not really that dangerous'.

The 90's top 4 where Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe & Mike Tyson. The following back was by some margin way more dangerous than today's following pack, fighters such as Micheal Moorer, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall, Herbie Hide, Ike Ibeabuchi, Francis Botha 'Then there was a 3rd wave of heavyweights after the second tier that was also dangerous'.

Deontay Wilder would of been knocked out in the 90's multiple times, here was just too many heavyweights that where technically Superior to the fighters active today. Even if Wilder avoided the big boys, fighters from that following pack have a high chance of sparking him out 'Wilder does not reign as champion for so long in any other era'.

Note: You only have to check video tapes to understand that the 90's heavyweights generally where better technically than today's fighters. Even Fury in my opinion is still a clumsy heavyweight, that cumbersome heavyweight that Haye saw is still inside of him. Tyson Fury is the number 1 heavyweight now, but when it is all said and done 'Joshua may come out on top, purely due to his near psychopathic work ethic'.

I wouldn`t pick nobody from 90s to beat Tyson Fury.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I wouldn`t pick nobody from 90s to beat Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury's first fight at elite level where he has separated himself from the fighter was? Against Deontay Wilder. Yes he won the fight vs Kiltschko, but it was not dominant to the point where 'Referee was having to stop the fight, or people could not envision Kiltschko winning a rematch' those are the facts. But people within the boxing community, try and make out that his win vs Kiltschko was some sort of technical master class 'He bamboozled Kilschko, he stole the fight'.

Tyson Fury is number 1 right now, no doubt about that 'But he has not separated himself from the pack'. Deontay Wilder has intermediate level boxing skills, Wilder does not reign for champion very long in the 90's 'There are just too many fighters who could violently spark him out'.

I honestly don't think we have seen enough of Tyson Fury against a more in-depth field of competitors. We know more about Anthony Joshua than we do about Tyson Fury 'Anthony Joshua has a by far deeper resume'.

Come to think of it? In some ways the 3rd fight between Deontay Wilder is kind of unnecessary. Tyson Fury needs to move on from his trilogy of fights quickly.

[The D3vil]

Foreman got demolished by a guy who RAN AWAY!?!?!?

Well that's a new use of the word I'd never heard before.


I always wondered what happened to Bubbles the Chimp, looks like he grew up and moved to Gary, Indiana.

Did you read the post your racist fxck?

I said Joshua.

90s was also the era of steroids and HGH. And for all the steroids and HGH those guys had available to them in endless supply without testing - it was an average era that became great due to hype.

Most of them were also on ******* and ******* gives added advantage.

I'll always pick the 60s/70s and then this era depending on the next 5-10 yrs as my top 3 eras.

Imagine being a stan of a guy who looks like this accusing others of being on steroids & HGH

And ******* definitely does not give you an "advantage"

Have you ever done coke?

Your heart would speed to insane amounts and you'd feel like you were having a heart attack if you tried to fight on it.

Tyson Fury got knocked down by a scrowny black cruiserweight.

Right?

He did.

And your favorite hw Mike Tyson was beaten by a journeyman when he was 24 years old.

And I am not even a Brit, lol.

My favorite HW was snorting coke and ****ing strippers the night before the fight and STILL should've won the fight against a Buster Douglass who would whoop Andy Ruiz's morbidly obese ass

https://eurweb.com/2017/10/08/bobby-...ke-tyson-loss/

[MartialMind]

This era consist of 4 fighters, then there is big gap to the following pack 'The following pack consist of fighters who are not really that dangerous'.

The 90's top 4 where Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe & Mike Tyson. The following pack was by some margin way more dangerous than today's following pack, fighters such as Micheal Moorer, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall, Herbie Hide, Ike Ibeabuchi, Francis Botha 'Then there was a 3rd wave of heavyweights after the second tier that was also dangerous'.

When you list Tyson as one of the top 4 of the 90s are you factoring in what he did in the 80s there or just his 90s resume? From Buster Douglas onward.