Again, 90s heavyweights are very overrated

[BangEM]

90s was also the era of steroids and HGH. And for all the steroids and HGH those guys had available to them in endless supply without testing - it was an average era that became great due to hype.

Most of them were also on ******* and ******* gives added advantage.

I'll always pick the 60s/70s and then this era depending on the next 5-10 yrs as my top 3 eras.

[Marchegiano]

Young, prime, Foreman, the Foreman the beat frazier, he fights almost exactly like Wilder.....****in' clueless mook ya

[Rip Chudd]

It's not that the 90s was overrated, but Joshua, Wilder, and Fury are underrated

There is absolutely nothing about Wilder that is underrated. He's terrible

[sunny31]

Fat old Foreman, looking like Kownacki, came out from retirement to beat all club fighters, journeymen and fringe condenders, winning a world title against Moorer. By stoppage. Giving a very tough test to Holyfield. He also got robbed to Briggs in a last fight.

I don`t think Joshua or Fury would have any problem against old Foreman. Young prime Foreman from 70s was different animal.

So this era is not that bad at all and 90s are overhyped.

I think that says more about how good the 70s era was, particularly Ali, it doesnt demean the 2nd best era of heavies, which is the 90s.

Foreman is a consensus top 5 heavy of all time. The 2nd version was still a handful...chin, power, smarts.

I think this current era are very talented. Parker and Whyte are solid fighters, Ruiz and Ortiz as well, they bring some depth to the division. Wilder is what he is, an extremely dangerous, fast, flawed ko artist. Joshua is a good all round fighter, probably a better chin away from being a truly great fighter. Fury might be great...but I think they are all flawed.

Holyfield and Lewis were still a level above these guys as far as skill and ability. Bowe was on par in terms of talent but didnt have the same mental toughness, longevity to stay there.

[MartialMind]

90s was also the era of steroids and HGH. And for all the steroids and HGH those guys had available to them in endless supply without testing - it was an average era that became great due to hype.

Most of them were also on ******* and ******* gives added advantage.

I'll always pick the 60s/70s and then this era depending on the next 5-10 yrs as my top 3 eras.

If the 90s was the era of PEDs what changed to get boxing "clean" now?

The UFC brought in USADA to test their athletes but what exactly did boxing do to clean itself up from the 90s?

[BangEM]

If the 90s was the era of PEDs what changed to get boxing "clean" now?

The UFC brought in USADA to test their athletes but what exactly did boxing do to clean itself up from the 90s?

USADA is utterly useless.

I guess you have never heard of VADA. They do olympics style blood testing. UKAD in the UK also does the same thing. USADA only does urine testing.

When you get to the top level for HW, you can't escape VADA testing now. But there was no testing in the 90s.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I’m a big George Foreman guy. I rooted for him and I still think he would have beaten Tyson even at 40-something.

But let’s not pretend George Foreman proves the 1990s was overrated.

The 1970s and 1990s are the two deepest eras in heavyweight history and there’s no arguing against that.

Plus, this is George Foreman in the 90s besides KOing bums. He was hardly dominant:

• Lost almost every round to Evander Holyfield.

• Had a razor thin decision win in an absolute war against Alex Stewart.

• Lost almost every round to Tommy Morrison.

• Lost almost every round to Michael Moorer but landed one lucky punch and won.

• Got a razor thin and controversial decision over Axel Schultz. It was so close an immediate rematch was ordered by a world championship sanctioning body. Foreman vacated the title instead of taking the rematch.

• Won a split decision over Lou Savarese.

• Lost a decision to hand picked Shannon Briggs. (I thought Foreman won big and that it was a bad decision)

So let’s not pretend he was something other than an all-time great who got every shot possible and landed one punch in 36 rounds against top 10 guys.

Fat old Foreman, looking like Kownacki, came out from retirement to beat all club fighters, journeymen and fringe condenders, winning a world title against Moorer. By stoppage. Giving a very tough test to Holyfield. He also got robbed to Briggs in a last fight.

I don`t think Joshua or Fury would have any problem against old Foreman. Young prime Foreman from 70s was different animal.

So this era is not that bad at all and 90s are overhyped.

[BodyBagz]

Fat old Foreman, looking like Kownacki, came out from retirement to beat all club fighters, journeymen and fringe condenders, winning a world title against Moorer. By stoppage. Giving a very tough test to Holyfield. He also got robbed to Briggs in a last fight.

I don`t think Joshua or Fury would have any problem against old Foreman. Young prime Foreman from 70s was different animal.

So this era is not that bad at all and 90s are overhyped.

Compared to which era(s) ?

[bojangles1987]

The 90s was a fantastic era for heavyweight. Foreman was an exceptional fighter, using him as a negative for a one punch KO in a fight he was losing widely is not making the 90s look worse.

Heavyweight was an absolutely stacked division. Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, Golota, Moorer, Morrison, Ruddock, Foreman, Bruno, Tua, there are few eras in HW history with so many genuine contenders. You had multiple ATG heavyweight fighters all operating at the same time, and a steady crop of talented contenders that pushed and sometimes beat them. You also had some of the very best fights the division has ever seen.

I know people don't like to hear it for whatever reason but it was incredible, and today's HW division has a long way to go before it can compare to the number of great fighters and great fights the 90s gave us.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Ali beat the best version of Foreman, the guy that was still player in 90s, when he was nearly 50 years old. He stopped him and made him retire. You realise how great Ali was, compared to guys from 90s?