Again, 90s heavyweights are very overrated

[Rusty Tromboni]

Did you read the post your racist fxck?

I said Joshua.



Imagine being a stan of a guy who looks like this accusing others of being on steroids & HGH

And ******* definitely does not give you an "advantage"

Have you ever done coke?

Your heart would speed to insane amounts and you'd feel like you were having a heart attack if you tried to fight on it.





He did.



My favorite HW was snorting coke and ****ing strippers the night before the fight and STILL should've won the fight against a Buster Douglass who would whoop Andy Ruiz's morbidly obese ass

https://eurweb.com/2017/10/08/bobby-...ke-tyson-loss/

Still should have won what?

[PRINCEKOOL]

When you list Tyson as one of the top 4 of the 90s are you factoring in what he did in the 80s there or just his 90s resume? From Buster Douglas onward.

A post of mine from another thread, answering similar question.

Mike Tyson become the WBC, WBA heavyweight champion for the second time when he came out of jail 'He could still beat 95% of the top heavyweights, was still a danger who? All the other champions where constantly being compared to etc Right up until the end of his career, nothing lightly was ever made of the potential violence that Mike Tyson could produce inside of a ring 'You make it sound as if he was knocked out and ran away' History did not go down like that.

Mike Tyson was a bench mark for the large majority of his career, it was only when Lennox Lewis beat him 'Did his fire get extinguished to a certain extent' Up until that point? Many people around the world, whether they where deluded, passionate fans or boxing experts 'A lot of people still thought that he was the baddest man in the world' That is why Lennox Lewis had to face him.

You are speaking of Mike Tyson as if he become some sort of joke in the 90's 'There was always a look of apprehension, on his opponents faces' Not at any point in Mike Tyson's career, did he become a joke. Not at any point in his career, could his opponents mock his abilities. Nobody was laughing at him during his press conferences, when people go and see tamed Lions in a zoo 'Deep down they are still afraid'. This was the same situation with Mike Tyson during the 90's and even early 2000's, just like those Lions he needed handlers around him.

I understand that people when it comes to Mike Tyson, want to create fairy-tales, people want to create myths that? All you had to do was stand up to him, and he would disappear 'History did not go down like that, those are just fairy tales and Science fiction'.

Mike Tyson did not just disappear, he was menacing ethereal force that existed everywhere in the world of boxing. Every single champion or heavyweight prospect who came along, they always at some point where asked that question? 'When are you going to face Mike Tyson'. There has not been a heavyweight since Mike Tyson who has had such impression and hold of the collective psyche of the boxing world.

Fighters these days get beat, they disappear or become dismissed 'Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder' all of these guys are 1-2 defeats away from disappearing 'For some mystical reason that did not happen with Mike Tyson'.

[MartialMind]

A post of mine from another thread, answering similar question.

Interesting take but it seems like he was living on his perception more than anything in the 90s.

Look at the people going crazy over his training vids at 53 and some of his hardcore fans are saying he could still be a threat at HW which is nonsense of course.

Based on resume from let's say '90 to 2002 even when he faced Lewis, is his resume top 4? I'm not saying it isn't but again Mike has lived on the perception as the "baddest man in the world" for over 30 years now.

[2Shotz]

53 yr old Mike is not an in-ring threat to the top heavies of today but the 90’s era of hwys craps all over this current era, with the exception of a notable few who don’t bear mentioning, cos we all know who!

[thebrownbomber_]

Or old holmes beating mercer and giving holyfield problems

[Mushashi]

This era consist of 4 fighters, then there is big gap to the following pack 'The following pack consist of fighters who are not really that dangerous'.

The 90's top 4 where Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe & Mike Tyson. The following pack was by some margin way more dangerous than today's following pack, fighters such as Micheal Moorer, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall, Herbie Hide, Ike Ibeabuchi, Francis Botha 'Then there was a 3rd wave of heavyweights after the second tier that was also dangerous'.

Deontay Wilder would of been knocked out in the 90's multiple times, there was just too many heavyweights that where technically Superior to the fighters active today. Even if Wilder avoided the big boys, fighters from that following pack have a high chance of sparking him out 'Wilder does not reign as champion for so long in any other era'.

Note: You only have to check video tapes to understand that the 90's heavyweights generally where better technically than today's fighters. Even Fury in my opinion is still a clumsy heavyweight, that cumbersome heavyweight that Haye saw is still inside of him. Tyson Fury is the number 1 heavyweight now, but when it is all said and done 'Joshua may come out on top, purely due to his near psychopathic work ethic'.

I fully agree not enough strength in-depth beyond the top guys today.

[Vlad_]

Fury is technical, Wilder is a hard hitting warrior who always goes forward. AJ went life and death against a past prime, past 40yo Klitschko, and needed a british ref to stop the fight while he was throwing a flurry hitting air. AJ is overrated. Fury and Wilder are good. And yes, the fighters of the past are also often overrated with feelings of nostalgia.