Pacquiao fans: Why did he fight David Diaz at 135 instead of Nate Campbell?

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juan diaz had just lost to campbell a week before the 2nd pac marquez fight. what did you learn?

Read the thread. This was discussed already.

The upshot being that Pacquiao fought JMM in March and Campbell beat Juan Diaz in March. So both were on the perfect schedule to fight each other next.

But Pacquiao picked David Diaz instead.

david diaz was no great fighter. does anyone claim that? then again nate campbell was a journeyman before scoring that big upset over juan diaz. in retrospect yes campbell would have been better imo...

Fair enough. We seem to be in agreement about that then.

[koolkc107]

Genuinely didn’t read it...

A fanboy of who exactly?

Just let it go kid you’re just embarrassing yourself.

Only one of us has double standards AND no good answer to the OP...and it ain't me, kid.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Only one of us has double standards AND no good answer to the OP...and it ain't me, kid.

Are you for real?

I clearly outlined I had no issue with either Mayweather or Pacquiao not fighting opposition like Campbell, Diaz, Williams Margarito etc.

A fanboy of who exactly? Pacquiao cause I don’t think he avoided Nate Campbell? WTF kid, you have issues...

You clearly have double standards. So delusional...

[koolkc107]

Are you for real?

I clearly outlined I had no issue with either Mayweather or Pacquiao not fighting opposition like Campbell, Diaz, Williams Margarito etc.

A fanboy of who exactly? Pacquiao cause I don’t think he avoided Nate Campbell? WTF kid, you have issues...

You clearly have double standards. So delusional...

Somebody needs to go back and read the bullshyt they were spouting.

For example, that was you ridiculing the OP by saying he could have had a better argument for Casamayor because Joel was lineal...and that was also you suggesting Mayweather should have fought the least prestigious beltholder in Margarito instead of the lineal in Baldomir.

And you did more doubletalking than that all throughout.

Hypocrite much, hmm?

[daggum]

Read the thread. This was discussed already.

The upshot being that Pacquiao fought JMM in March and Campbell beat Juan Diaz in March. So both were on the perfect schedule to fight each other next.

But Pacquiao picked David Diaz instead.



Fair enough. We seem to be in agreement about that then.

juan diaz and nate campbell are on too different levels as far as name value. juan diaz was one of the best young boxers in the sport and campbell was a journeyman who scored a nice win. pac vs juan diaz would have been huge but unfortunately never got a chance to happen. pac vs campbell would have been a good solid fight but really nothing great. similar to the david diaz fight. and david and pac were both with top rank if i recall so you know how that goes. easier fight to make in house. this seems pretty nitpicky really out of everything. pac vs guzman was a fight that really should have happened but pac vs campbell?

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Somebody needs to go back and read the bullshyt they were spouting.

For example, that was you ridiculing the OP by saying he could have had a better argument for Casamayor because Joel was lineal...and that was also you suggesting Mayweather should have fought the least prestigious beltholder in Margarito instead of the lineal in Baldomir.

And you did more doubletalking than that all throughout.

Hypocrite much, hmm?

floyd should have marg at some point but he picked sharmba, zab coming off a loss, and journeyman baldomir. also if you are doing ppv's marg is going to get you far more buys. marg was also #1 for 3 years at that point while baldomir came from nowhere to score an upset win. it was pretty clear who was better but someone had to take down the easy mark it just would have been better if marg had been able to take down baldomir or if floyd had taken marg first instead of bums like sharmba oh well

[koolkc107]

floyd should have marg at some point but he picked sharmba, zab coming off a loss, and journeyman baldomir. also if you are doing ppv's marg is going to get you far more buys. marg was also #1 for 3 years at that point while baldomir came from nowhere to score an upset win. it was pretty clear who was better but someone had to take down the easy mark it just would have been better if marg had been able to take down baldomir or if floyd had taken marg first instead of bums like sharmba oh well

Easy funnyman.

Sharmba was Floyd's first fight at the weight (true, it was only Sharmba's second at 147 as well). You wanna make the argument that he should have faced Margarito instead, I'll listen but it isn't like Floyd had no right to test the waters instead of trying any of the champions first.

Zab, even coming off of a loss, was ranked higher than Margarito, and still had a belt. Zab was definitely a bigger fight so again understandable if not forgivable by some.

The problem was that Margarito looked like the real deal but his resume to that point was meh.

A win over Kermit Cintron is definitely not better than back to back wins over Judah and Gatti. Getting worked by Daniel Santos less than 2 years prior is not better than no losses in almost a decade.

And, let's not forget that if Arum gives Floyd what he asked for, that fight happens...and Arum gets a much bigger slice than $750,000.

You wanna cry about Floyd not fighting Margarito and pretend it's in any way similar to what happened with Pac cherry picking David Diaz, be my guest.

It isn't tho, no matter how much you try to spin it.

It's revisionist history to regard Margarito as this boogeyman Floyd avoided by fighting Baldomir. It was an awful business decision by Arum that scuttled the fight when it should have happened and Baldomir was a well regarded option at the time.

Hell, given what eventually happened in their respective careers, you could make the argument that at least Baldomir didn't need to cheat to accomplish what he did. Not sure the same could be said about Antonio.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Somebody needs to go back and read the bullshyt they were spouting.

For example, that was you ridiculing the OP by saying he could have had a better argument for Casamayor because Joel was lineal...and that was also you suggesting Mayweather should have fought the least prestigious beltholder in Margarito instead of the lineal in Baldomir.

And you did more doubletalking than that all throughout.

Hypocrite much, hmm?

You’re comprehension is terrible.

I said I found it interesting that you didn’t have a problem with Mayweather choosing Gatti over Tszyu and Baldomir over Margarito. Yet had an issue with Pacquiao facing Diaz instead Campbell.

That had nothing to do with lineal titles it was to do with the fact that Tszyu and Margarito are BETTER than Gatti and Baldomir.

You’re saying Pacquiao should have fought Campbell because he was a BETTER opponent than Diaz. Yet have double standards when the roles are reversed.

My opinion is CONSISTENT in stating neither Mayweather or Pacquiao avoided any of those guys.

Why? Because you’re a TMT fanboy nonce and I’m an objective boxing fan.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I’m putting this loser on ignore.

Don’t expect another reply kid...

[emceetns]

So you're saying David Diaz was a better opponent than Baby Bull?

Not at all, Juan Diaz was definitely a better opponent than David Diaz. I'm just saying that Baby Bull would have lost badly in my opinion due to the style matchup. Would he have been more competitive? Probably but ultimately I think Manny would have brutalized him in similar fashion to how he destroyed David Diaz.