What heavyweights in history are actually considered ATGs like ALI

[JohnCastellanos]

Every lineal champion until the three/four belt era with the exception of Primo Carnera and Leon Spinks.

The three/four belt era champions who are all time greats Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe, Michael Moorer, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko.

There are probably a few other names that should be included in this list, like Ken Norton for instance.

How does Fury’s resume stack up vs some of these boxers? ATG I think is overboard

[JohnCastellanos]

ATG by whom? Us or the powers that be who make lists.

Off the top of my head.
Lennox Lewis
Tyson
Ali
Foreman
Joe Louis
Marciano
Sullivan
Dempsey
Jack Johnson.

Exactly! Because soon they will try to say someone’s an ATG and gotta be ready to debunk fake news

[JohnCastellanos]

Fury lost 1 round to Wlad

Fury lost 2 rounds to Chisora, stopped him in rematch

Fury Lost 3 rounds to Wilder, stopped him in rematch

Fury underdog going into all them fights excluding rematches. He is a beast.

Fought in 6 different countries

Won all his belts on away soil & has held every major belt.

AJ will be a walk in the park if Eddie ever signs that fight.

I think so too. Easy fight

[BangEM]

Do you consider Mike Tyson and Bowe as ATGs?

If so, then Fury and Josh are lock to be ATGs. Both already have better resumes than Bowe. And they just need undisputed to surpass Mike Tyson, Vitali and Wlad.

[TonyGe]

Exactly! Because soon they will try to say someone’s an ATG and gotta be ready to debunk fake news

Tyson Fury????? Wilder??? ... AJ??
Those guys are quite a ways away from ATG status right now.

[BangEM]

Tyson Fury????? Wilder??? ... AJ??
Those guys are quite a ways away from ATG status right now.

Who did Mike Tyson beat to become an ATG?

[Marchegiano]

I'll rey to stick to the populars rather than my opinion or the opinions of smaller groups. For example, all historians rank Sullivan, almost no modern fans do, so I'm cutting Sully.

In chronological order, not rank:


Fitz
Jeffries
Johnson
Dempsey
Louis
Marciano
Ali
Frazier
Foreman
Holmes
Tyson
Holyfield
Lewis




Not saying Godfrey, or Norton, Bowe, etc are not ATGs. I'm just saying I see their names less. Jeffries, Fitzs, Johnson, Dempsey, and Marciano are kinda on the border. You'll see Marciano and such more often listed as an ATG than Godfrey or Sullivan or some such but not nearly as often as Lewis or Louis.


The real-real popular, always there ATGs, I reckon anyway. cut Marciano and Holmes out, start with Louis, and work your way to Lewis.

Louis
Ali
Frazier
Foreman
Tyson
Holy
Lewis

pretty much always listed.



Wlad, ****, I forgot about Wlad.

[JohnCastellanos]

Do you consider Mike Tyson and Bowe as ATGs?

If so, then Fury and Josh are lock to be ATGs. Both already have better resumes than Bowe. And they just need undisputed to surpass Mike Tyson, Vitali and Wlad.

Not Really but Tyson kind of

[BangEM]

Not Really but Tyson kind of

Who did Tyson beat?

At least Bowe beat Holyfield twice.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Tyson Fury announced he was retired multiple times during the three years he was gone from the ring.

He wasn’t the lineal champion during that time.

He beat Klitschko to become lineal. He left boxing for three years and there wasn’t a heavyweight champion until his fight with Deontay Wilder. That determined the heavyweight championship because it was a clear 1 vs. 2 matchup.

The Ring Magazine Championship is supposed to be synonymous with the lineal championship. I can’t say that’s necessarily the case now that a boxing promoter owns it, so I go by TBRB.com. They didn’t recognize Fury as lineal champion again until he beat Wilder.

I don’t agree with you at all. Winning the lineal heavyweight twice? WTF? I far as I know just like Canelo (who Fury himself has mentioned as an example of lineal champs) Fury was also stripped of the ring magazine title not the lineal title. You can’t be stripped of lineal status, you have to lose it in the ring.