Would AJ become an ATG if he beats Fury?

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  • Bunch Pag
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    #11
    The first one to unification gets it...

    Unless fights are really close, I'm not into double/triple headers..

    Say wilder wins and it stands 1-1-1 each, do we toss a coin?

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      Originally posted by BangEM
      I've been seeing people calling Fury one of the best HWs ever right now. So if AJ beats him, would he become an ATG?

      And let's say Dillian Whyte end up becoming a champion and Ruiz becomes a champion again. That should elevate him to top 5 all time, no?

      I'm just going by the frenzy surrounding Fury now and make sure you keep the same energy.
      All time great is just an opinion.For instance some think Mayweather is the best ever and others think he doesn't belong in the top 50 greatest. I don't think a win over Fury turns AJ into an all time great. All time great should be based on a career and not one big win. I don't think Fury is an all time great.

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      • Kezzer
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        #13
        For me, AJ is closer to an ATG than fury. People get over hyped in the short term but if in ten years you look back and Fury has wins against klitschko, wilder and chisora nobody is going to be compare to any of the best. Wilder and chisora haven’t beaten anyone else of note so your down to a single win.

        AJ is closer because he has fought and beaten so many more; Povetkin, klitschko, Whyte, Ruiz rematch, Takam, etc.

        I really think both need a few more fights before you could really consider them either way though.

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        • Vinnykin
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          #14
          Originally posted by BangEM
          LMAO. Fury who has beaten no one but bums apart from Wlad and Wilder automatically become an ATG if he beats Josh. Both Josh who has beaten Wlad and names better than all the names on Fury's resume needs 6/7 years to get to that level after beating Fury. LMAOO.

          You're a Scot from Aberdeen, so I'm not shocked about your logic tbh. LMAOO.
          If Fury beats Wilder again, beats Joshua twice he will have beaten every champ and the 2 of the top 3 multiple times, as well as dethroning Wlad, on the road for most of them as well.

          That will confirm Fury as an ATG in my opinion, no one else for him to beat after that.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            If Fury beats Wilder again, beats Joshua twice he will have beaten every champ and the 2 of the top 3 multiple times, as well as dethroning Wlad, on the road for most of them as well.

            That will confirm Fury as an ATG in my opinion, no one else for him to beat after that.
            It doesn't work that way, mate.

            Fury's resume is thin. No unification. Not title defences. Just a bunch of bums with controversial decisions. And he has been banned for PED.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BangEM
              It doesn't work that way, mate.

              Fury's resume is thin. No unification. Not title defences. Just a bunch of bums with controversial decisions. And he has been banned for PED.
              It's thin due to his time out of the ring and also David Haye pulling out twice and wasting a year of his career. He's lost about 3 prime years and needed tune-ups and a run of camps to get back to his best.

              I think you are wrong on this one and Fury will go down as an ATG if he beats Joshua, Wilder and Whyte. No other boxer will ever be like Fury, 6'9 and good at everything. I think most people will put up up against the other ATG's just due to his size.

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                #17
                Originally posted by iamboxing
                He was vindicated. More importantly, did he use PEDS to beat Wilder, the guy you all said would annihilate him? No!

                Such a hateful person.
                Who let this ***** out of the caravan?

                PED is part of his story just as the gift draw against McDermott in the biggest robbery in British boxing history. Deal with it.

                And no, he wasn't cleared - he was banned for 2 yrs.

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                • miniq
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                  #18
                  AJ lost to a little fatman

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Gate keeper
                    The same over the hill Kiltschko and Wilder who hasn't been shown to be anywhere near the elite level when he doesn't get his magical ko? For all we know Dilian Whyte could have racked up those same two wins easily. I'd say Fury would need to beat at least two or three actual elite fighters in their prime, he hasn't beaten one, for ATG status or consistently beat somewhat decent string of opponents like Mayweather has.
                    This is heavyweight debate, what has some mayweather to do here?

                    Tyson Fury beat Klitschko, who didn`t lose a round in 10 years before that. And he beat Wilder, who was seen as some undefeated killer?

                    And now you tell me Fury has to beat some average guys to prove something?

                    Fury has only 1 challenge left. Joshua.

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                      #20
                      joshua fans calling him AJ is so gay

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