Comments Thread For: Haye Explains That He Never Saw Mike Tyson Overcome Adversity To Win

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    I don’t think he has ever had to do so, that’s a fair point by Haye though. I don’t remember ever seeing Tyson being KD or losing a fight and coming back to win it.

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    • super-x
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      #12
      Guess Haye watched that teddy atlas and joe rogan podcast abit late. Mitch Green in his day gave him a hard fight, james smith wasnt no walk in the park, all them guys that went the distance with him caused him problems as he couldnt blow them away but he kept at them for the distance and won. Everyone knows he shouldnt have been in the ring with buster douglas that night, he didnt even have a proper corner team with him, and got to take into fact douglas was on floor in round to should have been counted out. Holyfield 1 was hell of a fight, seemed that after the cut tyson broke down stil fought on till the 11th... how about when botha was outboxing the life out of mike, he stuck in there and found the shot to take him out. Even at the end of his career vs Lewis he was a mere shadow of what he was but he went out on his shield he took everything Lewis gave before he finally crumbled, even then it took a shove after that huge right hand to actually get him to go down. He lost a few times but was never flat out counted out was always making his way back up but wasnt in a fit state to continue or didnt make the count. Haye has no right to speak of tyson, haye has ZERO defining fights in his career. Beat enzo macca and mormeck at cruiserweight and vauev, and a shot john ruiz. This 53 year version of mike would probz destroy haye now inside 3 rounds.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #13
        I have lost some respect for Haye for playing along with a myth 'That Mike Tyson would just disappear in a tough fight'. David Haye always plays along with the most popular narrative since his retirement, very weak behavior from him all the time during punditry.

        Those defeats to Tony Bellew damaged him, far worse than he lets on etc

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          #14
          Originally posted by cameltoe
          You not seen his fight against Mormeck?
          Yeah, but Haye held every physical advantage against a guy who wasn't young and had been beaten not long previous. He rallied to beat Fragamoni too, smashed the back of hes head real good. Not really the same as taking left hooks from the biggest one punch hitter in the heavyweight division at the time. A hungry guy on the way up and in form.

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            #15
            Originally posted by rudy
            Yes definitely its seems fighters always used somebody to explain their own failings. Haye from amateur was always classed as chinny or fragile similar to Amir Khan. He just looking he thought a safety first Klitchsko and that is his claim to fame. Thompson took his soul and he just became a cautious fighter after that
            Haye always either stacked the deck in hes favour, or came with an in built excuse. He had some of the worst comeback opposition in recent history, pulled out of fighting Briggs because he thought he looked abit too live, and picked Bellew because he literally thought he'd knock him out with the first punch to get AJ. Then he'd have run 12 rounds or pulled an injury. Abit of a con man is David.

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            • rudy
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              #16
              To pull out twice against Fury was just plain terrible but he been doing this since the amateurs

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              • VatoMulatto
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                #17
                Originally posted by cooper5
                Doubt Haye is in a position to talk down Mike Tyson.
                Nothing wrong with what he said. Haye is entitled to his opinion.

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                • W1LL
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                  #18






                  Anybody who says David Haye never fought back from adversity doesn't know what they're talking about. A lot of posters lately seem to be that way. Study the sport, if you're a new fan do your research. It is embarrassing to read what you idiots have to say.

                  Haye's point is a valid one, and something we have always known about Mike Tyson. Typical bully fighter who could give it but not really take it. Was never the same fighter after losing his aura against Buster Douglas, and Evander Holyfield completely ruined him.

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                  • 5000boxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sunny31
                    Fanciful thinking at best. Ruddock was a good/solid fighter with good power but one handed.

                    I think the Tyson never fought in adversity is overplayed, but he was certainly a "on top" fighter. But I think he showed enough toughness in his career. I think his bigger issue was stamina. When he was tired and he started getting punched, he would react badly.
                    Yea.. They say fatigue makes a coward out of the bravest men.. But I think Tyson's stamina can last three rounds.

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                      #20
                      I never understood the penalizing of a fighter for being to dominant. Tyson had some tough fights even in his prime and people call him overated ,if he wins to easy he has no heart , you just can’t win really.

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