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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Haye Explains That He Never Saw Mike Tyson Overcome Adversity To Win

    Former two division world champion David Haye, in a recent interview with the BBC podcast Greatest Fights' - discussed the career of former undisputed heavyweight champion Mike Tyson.
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  • tokon
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    So, by that criteria, also rules himself out of contention for an "all time" ranking!

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    • Mindgames
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      I think Haye might be talking about himself. Tyson had hard fights with Tillis and Ruddock twice. Haye folded as soon as Carl Thompson started hitting him back, did nothing and waited for the towel to come in. Ran in the Klitschko fight with a prearranged excuse, fell apart in both Bellew fights when he couldnt blow him out. Tyson is often criticised for lack of heart, but he took alot of punishment in the Douglas fight, lots in the first Holyfield fight. Even Tucker, Bruno, Thomas and Mathis fights weren't all plain sailing. He had one leg in the Williams fight, took about 20 straight shots from a guy who could definitely punch. No, the no heart Teddy Atlas stuff dont fly.

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      • rudy
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        Originally posted by Mindgames
        I think Haye might be talking about himself. Tyson had hard fights with Tillis and Ruddock twice. Haye folded as soon as Carl Thompson started hitting him back, did nothing and waited for the towel to come in. Ran in the Klitschko fight with a prearranged excuse, fell apart in both Bellew fights when he couldnt blow him out. Tyson is often criticised for lack of heart, but he took alot of punishment in the Douglas fight, lots in the first Holyfield fight. Even Tucker, Bruno, Thomas and Mathis fights weren't all plain sailing. He had one leg in the Williams fight, took about 20 straight shots from a guy who could definitely punch. No, the no heart Teddy Atlas stuff dont fly.
        Yes definitely its seems fighters always used somebody to explain their own failings. Haye from amateur was always classed as chinny or fragile similar to Amir Khan. He just looking he thought a safety first Klitchsko and that is his claim to fame. Thompson took his soul and he just became a cautious fighter after that

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        • trippers1
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          Haye is just repeating what teddy atlas constantly says about tyson. The fact is tyson didnt really have to come back in a fight as it was usually over in a few rounds. He obviously had his issues and holyfield ear bite ect could possibly be seen as looking for a way out. But to suggest he was mentally weak or whatever isnt fair. He came from absolutely nothing to a world heavyweight champion shows he must have mental toughness

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          • 5000boxing
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            What about Tyson's two fights with Razor Rud****? Both fighters were never the same after that.. A prime example of how great fighters can destroy each others potential.. Haye is just butthurt from what bellow and klitschko did to him! Lol.

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              Originally posted by Mindgames
              I think Haye might be talking about himself. Tyson had hard fights with Tillis and Ruddock twice. Haye folded as soon as Carl Thompson started hitting him back, did nothing and waited for the towel to come in. Ran in the Klitschko fight with a prearranged excuse, fell apart in both Bellew fights when he couldnt blow him out. Tyson is often criticised for lack of heart, but he took alot of punishment in the Douglas fight, lots in the first Holyfield fight. Even Tucker, Bruno, Thomas and Mathis fights weren't all plain sailing. He had one leg in the Williams fight, took about 20 straight shots from a guy who could definitely punch. No, the no heart Teddy Atlas stuff dont fly.
              You not seen his fight against Mormeck?

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              • SkiPete
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                I remember when Tyson choked in the biggest fight of his life and then tried to blame a sore pinkie toe. Oh no wait that was David Haye.

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                • cooper5
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                  Doubt Haye is in a position to talk down Mike Tyson.

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                  • sunny31
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                    Originally posted by 5000boxing
                    What about Tyson's two fights with Razor Rud****? Both fighters were never the same after that.. A prime example of how great fighters can destroy each others potential.. Haye is just butthurt from what bellow and klitschko did to him! Lol.
                    Fanciful thinking at best. Ruddock was a good/solid fighter with good power but one handed.

                    I think the Tyson never fought in adversity is overplayed, but he was certainly a "on top" fighter. But I think he showed enough toughness in his career. I think his bigger issue was stamina. When he was tired and he started getting punched, he would react badly.

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