Canelo is a better fighter than Golovkin.
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But even that is subjective Curt, as is defense.its called "effective aggression"...not aggression....depending on the type of punches landed id lean toward the guy that landed 25 out of 50....over the guy that landed 30 out of 100...hes more efficient and more effective.....its simply not a contest of who throws more punches......again it would depend on the type of punches landed....but without seeing them id lean on the guy landing 25/50 over the guy doing 30/100
effective aggression right? not just aggression
Take an analogy...let's say we are competing to see who can throw the most touchdowns...I go 30 for 100...you go 25 for 50.
You can argue your defense was better...you held me to 30% to my 50%..I can argue my defense was better, I only allowed you to have 50 attempts to score to my 100 attempts.
I can argue my aggression was effective, I scored more points and had more attempts to score...you can argue it wasn't that effective as you held me to a lower percentage of scores per throw than you had.
But the fact remains, that I scored more points than you...and just like in boxing, that is how you score a football game...it is who lands more and better shots...the other stuff is important, but only insofar as it helps you to land or not get landed on.
Twisting around the criteria like that is an invitation to robbery cards as well...able to twist it around to suit your guy potentially any time you want.Comment
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neither volume nor punches landed are official scoring criteria
the fact that you casuals do not acknowledge ring generalship and defence... is shameful... and I have already schooled you up on that a number of times* clean HARD punching
* effective aggression
* defence
* ring generalship
Golovkin was supposed to be a killer
Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...
and yet... ???
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But even that is subjective Curt, as is defense.
Take an analogy...let's say we are competing to see who can throw the most touchdowns...I go 30 for 100...you go 25 for 50.
You can argue your defense was better...you held me to 30% to my 50%..I can argue my defense was better, I only allowed you to have 50 attempts to score to my 100 attempts.
I can argue my aggression was effective, I scored more points and had more attempts to score...you can argue it wasn't that effective as you held me to a lower percentage of scores per throw than you had.
But the fact remains, that I scored more points than you...and just like in boxing, that is how you score a football game...it is who lands more and better shots...the other stuff is important, but only insofar as it helps you to land or not get landed on.
Twisting around the criteria like that is an invitation to robbery cards as well...able to twist it around to suit your guy potentially any time you want.
kid, Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... a killer with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...
... if his aggression was sooooo effective, then why didn't we see any of that?... we got golov-morons running around insisting that Golovkin "forgot" to work the body lol
he missed 1000+ punches LMAO
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Good post and only g turds will argue this but what’s your point? Conelo still lost 2 fights to a inferior fighter so that makes Conelo not that greatGolovkin might have been "robbed" in both fights, but Canelo is the better and more skilled fighter.
Canelo adjusted in the rematch, which is why he gave Golovkin more trouble.
Canelo is a better body puncher. Golovkin has become a headhunter in his recent fights.
Canelo is a better counter-puncher.
Canelo has better head movement. Look at Golovkin's face in the rematch.Comment
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And yet Conelo was gifted a draw and won a highly controversial rematch what does that really say of conelo? Think about it time. You made valid points yet your hero had a draw and a gift winkid, Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... a killer with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...
... if his aggression was sooooo effective, then why didn't we see any of that?... we got golov-morons running around insisting that Golovkin "forgot" to work the body lol
he missed 1000+ punches LMAO
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you made valid points yet your hero had a draw and a loss
Golovkin could not get his game going in EITHER of those fightsComment
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Very well put. I like both fighters. Though now I’m seeing Canelo improve and GGG block punches with his face. Nelo has the prettier stuff for sure. But no one will say he hits harder or has a better chin than GGG. A 35yr old Nelo vs a young Lion remains to be seen. I’m impressed with the improvements Nelos made, his defence, footwork for example. He used to have to reset after his combos. Still it’s not like we see Nelo throw 80+ in a round. Maybe he hasent had to. I’d hate to see him run out of time in a fight.Many mistakes. Marks in face depend on the fighters skin, is not a great indicator of fight outcome.
We don't know if Canelo is better than GGG. What we know is that he lost twice against him. But head to head doesn't mean someone is better than other fighter, I know that. It could be a match up issue.
Still, Canelo fought him at his prime whereas Golovkin fought him while being out of prime. Let's see how good Canelo is when he's 35+ years old.Comment


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