Canelo is a better fighter than Golovkin.

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  • Boxing_1013
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    #41
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    forget the rematch... it was clearly obvious after the first fight that Canelo is more skilled, and more well-rounded, than Golovkin

    unbelievably, after the first fight... we had Golovkin fans, insisting that he is better than Canelo... when it was clearly obvious that he was not

    so, what happened in the rematch, they did not see coming

    even more unbelievably, we still got Golovkin fans who think that he is better than Canelo... and who cannot see what will happen in the trilogy

    oh well LMAO
    He outlanded him by like 80 punches in 2 fights man...how is the other guy clearly a better boxer lol...nonsense

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    • LetOutTheCage
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      #42
      Canelo feeds on smaller and semi-retired fighters. You Canelo fanboys are in you're own league

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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        haha...didn't see yours before I posted...great minds think alike I suppose
        Haha yeah, gotta be some truth in it then

        I read your post and actually tried to give you green K but I've gotta "spread it around"

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          #44
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          its called "effective aggression"...not aggression....depending on the type of punches landed id lean toward the guy that landed 25 out of 50....over the guy that landed 30 out of 100...hes more efficient and more effective.....its simply not a contest of who throws more punches......again it would depend on the type of punches landed....but without seeing them id lean on the guy landing 25/50 over the guy doing 30/100

          effective aggression right? not just aggression
          But even that is subjective Curt, as is defense.

          Take an analogy...let's say we are competing to see who can throw the most touchdowns...I go 30 for 100...you go 25 for 50.

          You can argue your defense was better...you held me to 30% to my 50%..I can argue my defense was better, I only allowed you to have 50 attempts to score to my 100 attempts.

          I can argue my aggression was effective, I scored more points and had more attempts to score...you can argue it wasn't that effective as you held me to a lower percentage of scores per throw than you had.

          But the fact remains, that I scored more points than you...and just like in boxing, that is how you score a football game...it is who lands more and better shots...the other stuff is important, but only insofar as it helps you to land or not get landed on.

          Twisting around the criteria like that is an invitation to robbery cards as well...able to twist it around to suit your guy potentially any time you want.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Boxing_1013
            He outlanded him by like 80 punches in 2 fights man...how is the other guy clearly a better boxer lol...nonsense


            neither volume nor punches landed are official scoring criteria

            * clean HARD punching
            * effective aggression
            * defence
            * ring generalship
            the fact that you casuals do not acknowledge ring generalship and defence... is shameful... and I have already schooled you up on that a number of times

            Golovkin was supposed to be a killer

            Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...

            and yet... ???


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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxing_1013
              But even that is subjective Curt, as is defense.

              Take an analogy...let's say we are competing to see who can throw the most touchdowns...I go 30 for 100...you go 25 for 50.

              You can argue your defense was better...you held me to 30% to my 50%..I can argue my defense was better, I only allowed you to have 50 attempts to score to my 100 attempts.

              I can argue my aggression was effective, I scored more points and had more attempts to score...you can argue it wasn't that effective as you held me to a lower percentage of scores per throw than you had.

              But the fact remains, that I scored more points than you...and just like in boxing, that is how you score a football game...it is who lands more and better shots...the other stuff is important, but only insofar as it helps you to land or not get landed on.

              Twisting around the criteria like that is an invitation to robbery cards as well...able to twist it around to suit your guy potentially any time you want.



              kid, Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... a killer with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...

              ... if his aggression was sooooo effective, then why didn't we see any of that?... we got golov-morons running around insisting that Golovkin "forgot" to work the body lol

              he missed 1000+ punches LMAO

              stop blurting out excuses you fluff-monkey

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                #47
                Originally posted by VG_Addict
                Golovkin might have been "robbed" in both fights, but Canelo is the better and more skilled fighter.

                Canelo adjusted in the rematch, which is why he gave Golovkin more trouble.

                Canelo is a better body puncher. Golovkin has become a headhunter in his recent fights.

                Canelo is a better counter-puncher.

                Canelo has better head movement. Look at Golovkin's face in the rematch.
                Good post and only g turds will argue this but what’s your point? Conelo still lost 2 fights to a inferior fighter so that makes Conelo not that great

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  kid, Golovkin was supposed to be a killer... a killer with relentless pressure, lethal body-work, and heavy-handed concussive punching...

                  ... if his aggression was sooooo effective, then why didn't we see any of that?... we got golov-morons running around insisting that Golovkin "forgot" to work the body lol

                  he missed 1000+ punches LMAO

                  stop blurting out excuses you fluff-monkey
                  And yet Conelo was gifted a draw and won a highly controversial rematch what does that really say of conelo? Think about it time. You made valid points yet your hero had a draw and a gift win

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    And yet Conelo was gifted a draw and won a highly controversial rematch what does that really say of conelo? Think about it time. You made valid points yet your hero had a draw and a gift win


                    you made valid points yet your hero had a draw and a loss

                    Golovkin could not get his game going in EITHER of those fights

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by _Maxi
                      Many mistakes. Marks in face depend on the fighters skin, is not a great indicator of fight outcome.

                      We don't know if Canelo is better than GGG. What we know is that he lost twice against him. But head to head doesn't mean someone is better than other fighter, I know that. It could be a match up issue.

                      Still, Canelo fought him at his prime whereas Golovkin fought him while being out of prime. Let's see how good Canelo is when he's 35+ years old.
                      Very well put. I like both fighters. Though now I’m seeing Canelo improve and GGG block punches with his face. Nelo has the prettier stuff for sure. But no one will say he hits harder or has a better chin than GGG. A 35yr old Nelo vs a young Lion remains to be seen. I’m impressed with the improvements Nelos made, his defence, footwork for example. He used to have to reset after his combos. Still it’s not like we see Nelo throw 80+ in a round. Maybe he hasent had to. I’d hate to see him run out of time in a fight.

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