Canelo is a better fighter than Golovkin.

[aboutfkntime]

It's just CLEAN punching Scrappy, not CLEAN HARD punching per the ABCs own judging guidelines You don't get to discount jabs because it doesn't suit, man.


If you believe that Canelo's clean punches had a greater cumulative effect than Golovkin's over a 3 minute stanza then you give the round to him, if you believe Golovkin's had a greater comulative effect in a round then you give it to him, if you believe it's pretty much too close to call then you can maybe look at the other criteria.

nope... I have read criteria that stipulated clean HARD punching

I have also read criteria that stipulated clean EFFECTIVE punching

unfortunately for you, the wording is irrelevant because the meaning is clear

pushed/poked/prodding, jabs or feints... are not official scoring criteria

neither is any glancing blow... nor anything that hits gloves shoulders forearms

professional judges know exactly what to look for, and you fanboy butt-monkeys wouldn't have a clue... you guys are morons for blindly insisting that you know more than professional judges

that is a classic example of utter ******ity

that is like some little nose-picker rocking up to a racetrack in his mustang, insisting that he is a better driver than Lewis Hamilton

And missed punches sure as hell ain't a scoring criteria either yet you continually bring it up and amusingly inflate the numbers each time. First fight per comubox Canelo 'missed' 336 and GGG 'missed' 470 or so, second fight was significantly wider, something like 420 to 640 going by compubox, but throwing more to land more has never been something we peanalised fighters for before - hell there's dudes whose entire games revolved around throwing volume. Not your thing huh?

you would need to be one of the dumbest cvnts on the planet to rock up to a boxing website and insist that defence does not count

hit and not be hit kid... it aint called the sweet science for nothing

like I said above... you fanboy clowns are an example of utter ******ity

And the thrust of your argument appears to be that because Golovkin failed to dominate then Canelo should win by default. You any idea how ridiculous that is man? Both of em were extremely respectful of what the other brought to the table and neither was able to get much going in either fight, in fact they largely neutralised each other but for you that somehow means we default to a Canelo victory? A 'killer' whatever that means, failing to get the kill has no bearing on whether or not he should have won or lost the fight. You score a 'killers' fight by exactly the same criteria as you score anyone else's.

A pair of excellent extremely hard fought boxing matches and all you can see is how it plays to your agenda. Never once have I seen you say how good both fights were or give credit to skill or determination of both men, whoever you thought deserved the nod.

Kinda sad really.

nope, I never said anything like that

Canelo tamed Golovkin, who could not get his game going... he outboxed Golovkin and for the most part controlled the fight... showing better skills/defence, landing better/cleaner shots while neutralizing Golovkin's offense... not allowing Golovkin to gain any momentum, not allowing Golovkin to exert any sustained/effective pressure... not allowing Golovkin to get comfortable or work the body... not allowing Golovkin to regain control in the championship rounds

Canelo fought his fight, but Golovkin could not get his game going...

Golovkin was effective in parts, the fight was close... but I could see who the better-skilled, more well-rounded, fighter was... so it is no surprise the judges saw the same thing

[aboutfkntime]

I'm not a big fan of compubox but if you look at the compubox numbers

GGG/Canelo 1

GGG 218/703 = 31%
Canelo 169/505 = 33.5%

GGG/Canelo 2

GGG 234/879 = 26.6%
Canelo 202/622 = 32.5%

As you can see GGG landed more than Canelo and this is confirmed by video.

If you took their percentages and made it out of 100 Canelo would have a minuscule 2 punches and 6 punches respectively. Is that dominant like all the Canelo groupies suggest? And yet he still landed less because he threw less and GGG threw more.

That's nothing like 25/50 vs 30/100.

10/12 total punches
9/12 jabs
5/12 power punches

8/12 total punches
12/12 jabs
3/12 power punches

If I gave you the statistic above and you didnt know which fighter did what, who do you think won?

Because I'm 100% certain anyone who doesnt have an agenda knows that he guy with the stats above won both.

that is all just sillyness

1) most people know that compubox is inaccurate

2) compubox does not use official scoring criteria, so is totally irrelevant

[aboutfkntime]

Again if you want to say that GGG didn't live up to some hype, that is fair...I thought he would KO Canelo in fight 1, but I also thought Canelo would fight him...I thought he would KO Danny, but so did everyone else...no one knew Danny had a decent chin actually...I didn't think Canelo could hold the center of the ring vs GGG, but he did in fight 2.

But Canelo and Jacobs didn't perform vs GGG like they did vs anyone else either...that's what happens 2 top fighters mix it up...they don't excel as much as they do against inferior competition.

GGG still deserves props for what he did in those fights, he still won all 3 quite clearly imo...even if he didn't live up to expectations of many going into those fights...over-performing doesn't mean you get the W or that the other guy sucks.

thank you

finally

but yea... I would of course, add to that comment...

"GGG didn't live up to some hype"... he was too "well-managed", and should have taken at least some of the (admittedly difficult) challenges that he avoided

and " avoided ", in that context... means exactly the same as it does in the dictionary... could have, but chose not to

[kidbazooka]

Wrong!!!!!!!

Ggg did not “deserve” to win either fight especially the rematch ****tt only on ggg fanboy noob would that think ggg won the rematch.

But yes obviously canelo is the greater and better fighter.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Somebody is at it again with their bulletin board that is covered with pictures of Golovkin and all his known associates alongside cut out news paper clippings. Each photo, with mysterious notes written upon them, connected to a few others by red string.

All totally normal.

[hugh grant]

Wrong!!!!!!!

Ggg did not “deserve” to win either fight especially the rematch ****tt only on ggg fanboy noob would that think ggg won the rematch.

But yes obviously canelo is the greater and better fighter.

By the way things are going nel o may well be considered better fighter even with 2 wins over nel o in many opinions.
Just like Pac is better fighter than floyd when all is said and done. Floyd s win over pac won't get him far