Comments Thread For: Amir Khan: We All Know Joshua is A-Side, But Fury is No. 1 at Weight

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  • Angeljuice
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    #51
    Originally posted by Smash
    lennox was athletic and explosive with good boxing ability, aj is stiff and strong and has reached his level, i mean go watch the fight with the kiwi again, dull as dishwater, hes just not as good as people hoped he was, lennox pointed it out to him
    Lennox cuddled people into submission, not athletic or explosive at all. I was a fan, but felt embarrassed watching him fight at times, very boring.

    Nobody used to have any respect for him when he was active (okay, some did but most were derogatory), suddenly he's a genius and a boxing guru

    I remember him going all mental and walking into the desert with a magical mumu stick to try and get in touch with his dead ancestors (before losing the fight).

    I also remember him getting a serious boxing lesson from Frank Bruno before landing a lucky punch to save his humiliation.

    Lewis is overrated by today's fans. He wasn't great and was boring.

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    • Angeljuice
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      #52
      Originally posted by Cool Scant
      Great keep pushing this A Side Anthony narrative so a Fury V Joshua fight will never happen.
      Hearne has already said that now Fury has a belt it would be 50/50.

      It's the way boxing purses work (why are so many unable to understand such a simple concept).

      The champion is putting his belt(s) and titles on the line, he has more to lose and gets a bigger share of the purse.
      The challenger, no matter how hyped by the media they may be, is not as big as the champion and gets less money.

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      • Cool Scant
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        #53
        Originally posted by Angeljuice
        Hearne has already said that now Fury has a belt it would be 50/50.

        It's the way boxing purses work (why are so many unable to understand such a simple concept).

        The champion is putting his belt(s) and titles on the line, he has more to lose and gets a bigger share of the purse.
        The challenger, no matter how hyped by the media they may be, is not as big as the champion and gets less money.
        If that’s the way boxing purses work why did A Side Anthony offer wilder nothing but flat fees? One of those flat fees was equivalent to 12.5% smh

        Belts don’t determine the split. AJ and Hearn fans just make up things that’s advantageous for AJ ie highest purse argument or most belts argument.

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        • Pigeons
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          #54
          Joshua's cuter, so he must be the A-side.

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          • Roberto Vasquez
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            #55
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            Fury beat Wlad by UD, how is a rematch merited? How did Fury run from a guy he beat? Why not duck Wlad in the first place if he was scared?

            Fury beat Wilder in the first fight. What did he do? He got a rematch and destroyed Wilder. Wilder was the belt holder. A leverage that Fury now has when it comes to a unification bout with AJ.

            Unless you think AJ is a bum too?
            Lastly, Fury is 30 years old and can fight for another 5/6 years. That’s about 12 fights before he calls it quits. So there’s enough time for him to build on his legacy.

            Like, how the heck do you discredit a guy that has beaten two long dominant champions and is undefeated?
            Uh? A rematch always happens when a challenger beats a champion - it's in the contract. Only time it wouldn't happen is if Wlad decided he didn't want it.

            Fury didn't immediate rematch Wilder - he fought 2 guys outside the top 20 and struggled with the 2nd one. Wilder wanted an immediate rematch...

            Do I think AJ is a bum? (I didn't say Wilder or Fury are bums) AJ is proven top 3. Wilder and Fury aren't proven top 3. Wilder has beaten 1 top-10 fighter. Fury has beaten 1 top-20 fighter! AJ has beaten 4 top-10 fighters. More than both of them put together... AJ is *FIVE YEARS BEHIND* Wilder and Fury in his career.

            Why do you keep saying undefeated??? It means nothing, unless you are fighting the top guys. And Fury has never defended a belt. You just fell for all the hype mate.

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            • Roberto Vasquez
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              #56
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Runs from rematches?

              WTF are you smoking mate?

              He stopped both Chisora and Wilder in rematches.

              Was this an illusion ...



              And this ....

              He ran from the Wilder rematch and fought 2 bums first. Wilder wanted the immediate rematch.....

              He ran from the Wlad rematch and served a drugs ban .

              Yes he beat Derek Chisora well - I'll give you that. You should keep boasting about that for him.

              Since you mention CHisora - Klitschko, Takam, Usyk, Pulev, Whyte, Haye, Fury, Helenius

              Compare to Fury - Chisora, Klistchko, Wilder.

              Both at the same stage of their careers and Chisora is ranked 12-13. If you want proof that Fury avoids decent fighters. There it is.

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #57
                Originally posted by 1hourRun
                I was actually giving the Brits some credit.
                We don't deserve it. We are as dumb as anyone else.

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                • Smash
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Angeljuice
                  Lennox cuddled people into submission, not athletic or explosive at all. I was a fan, but felt embarrassed watching him fight at times, very boring.

                  Nobody used to have any respect for him when he was active (okay, some did but most were derogatory), suddenly he's a genius and a boxing guru

                  I remember him going all mental and walking into the desert with a magical mumu stick to try and get in touch with his dead ancestors (before losing the fight).

                  I also remember him getting a serious boxing lesson from Frank Bruno before landing a lucky punch to save his humiliation.

                  Lewis is overrated by today's fans. He wasn't great and was boring.
                  ha ha thats harsh but he has aged well when retired in fans eyes i guess, i would need to rewatch some of his fights to fully remember him tho, the memory fades over time a lot

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                  • Oregonian
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Angeljuice
                    Lennox cuddled people into submission, not athletic or explosive at all. I was a fan, but felt embarrassed watching him fight at times, very boring.

                    Nobody used to have any respect for him when he was active (okay, some did but most were derogatory), suddenly he's a genius and a boxing guru

                    I remember him going all mental and walking into the desert with a magical mumu stick to try and get in touch with his dead ancestors (before losing the fight).

                    I also remember him getting a serious boxing lesson from Frank Bruno before landing a lucky punch to save his humiliation.

                    Lewis is overrated by today's fans. He wasn't great and was boring.
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                    Man!!! You are the first person on this platform that has said that about Lennox. I have said that for years too.
                    Every article I read they keep writing that Lennox has “beaten every opponent he’s fought” while they omit the basic fact that two of those guys KO’d him. He also got beat by Ray Mercer.

                    The fact that he got KO’d by Hasim Rahman just tells you all you need to know.

                    I’m not going to discredit him completely but Lennox was boring and limited despite his credentials.
                    Last edited by Oregonian; 05-07-2020, 06:20 AM.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                      Uh? A rematch always happens when a challenger beats a champion - it's in the contract. Only time it wouldn't happen is if Wlad decided he didn't want it.

                      Fury didn't immediate rematch Wilder - he fought 2 guys outside the top 20 and struggled with the 2nd one. Wilder wanted an immediate rematch...

                      Do I think AJ is a bum? (I didn't say Wilder or Fury are bums) AJ is proven top 3. Wilder and Fury aren't proven top 3. Wilder has beaten 1 top-10 fighter. Fury has beaten 1 top-20 fighter! AJ has beaten 4 top-10 fighters. More than both of them put together... AJ is *FIVE YEARS BEHIND* Wilder and Fury in his career.

                      Why do you keep saying undefeated??? It means nothing, unless you are fighting the top guys. And Fury has never defended a belt. You just fell for all the hype mate.
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                      So AJ gets his ass handed to him by a pudgy Ruiz and he’s a top 3?
                      Meanwhile, Fury beats Wilder twice and is still hype.

                      As for your claim that Fury “didn’t immediately rematch Wilder”, after their first fight, that’s just silly. Wilder retained the belt because it was a draw. Wilder is the one who could rematch Fury as he was still the champion. I’m sure you know that but just making an argument to suit your narrative.

                      How can Fury rematch Wilder if he’s not the belt holder and is not obligated contractually? The reason there’s a third fight is because Wilder’s contract stipulated it. Nobody cares to watch that fight. Fury will beat Wilder again.

                      Lastly, when Fury finally meets AJ and beats him, are you going to be spewing the same hatred or will you acknowledge that Fury is the top HW since you claim AJ is a top 3 HW?

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