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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    #61
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    So AJ gets his ass handed to him by a pudgy Ruiz and he’s a top 3?
    Meanwhile, Fury beats Wilder twice and is still hype.

    As for your claim that Fury “didn’t immediately rematch Wilder”, after their first fight, that’s just silly. Wilder retained the belt because it was a draw. Wilder is the one who could rematch Fury as he was still the champion. I’m sure you know that but just making an argument to suit your narrative.

    How can Fury rematch Wilder if he’s not the belt holder and is not obligated contractually? The reason there’s a third fight is because Wilder’s contract stipulated it. Nobody cares to watch that fight. Fury will beat Wilder again.

    Lastly, when Fury finally meets AJ and beats him, are you going to be spewing the same hatred or will you acknowledge that Fury is the top HW since you claim AJ is a top 3 HW?
    Er. yes he is still top-3. You think Ruiz is top-3 ahead of AJ then?

    If Fury had fought a few people in the top-10 rather than just one in the top-20 - he would be proven no.1 when he beat Wilder. How can he be proven no.1 when he beat one guy in the top-20. And the guy he beat (Wilder) - his best win was against a 40yr old who was ranked no.6 at the time. Fury is no.1 only because of how the ratings system works. If a random bum had beaten Wilder he would also be no.1 in the same way - but doesn't mean he's the best in the division

    I don't get your rematch point - I was talking about their first fight. Wilder WANTED to rematch Fury immediately but Fury turned him down. He can't make Fury fight him.

    Also why do Wilder and AJ have lots more title defences on their record than Fury? Fury has zero so far.

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    • ralex
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      #62
      It’s weird. AJ is the A side of they fight in England. But Fury is the A side in the US

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      • Oregonian
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        #63
        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
        Er. yes he is still top-3. You think Ruiz is top-3 ahead of AJ then?

        If Fury had fought a few people in the top-10 rather than just one in the top-20 - he would be proven no.1 when he beat Wilder. How can he be proven no.1 when he beat one guy in the top-20. And the guy he beat (Wilder) - his best win was against a 40yr old who was ranked no.6 at the time. Fury is no.1 only because of how the ratings system works. If a random bum had beaten Wilder he would also be no.1 in the same way - but doesn't mean he's the best in the division

        I don't get your rematch point - I was talking about their first fight. Wilder WANTED to rematch Fury immediately but Fury turned him down. He can't make Fury fight him.

        Also why do Wilder and AJ have lots more title defences on their record than Fury? Fury has zero so far.
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        I don’t think Ruiz is top 10 let alone top 3 BUT he did best your top 3 guy AJ.

        I didn’t know Fury turned down an immediate rematch after their first fight. I looked it up and couldn’t find it. Do you have links to share?

        I’m still going to defer to my last question because Fury is only 30 and a collision with AJ is inevitable. So, when Fury beats AJ, will you still hold the same sentiments?

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        • QballLobo
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          #64
          A side is all about who has the best options. If AJ doesn’t fight Fury he still sells out arenas and makes $30 million plus against anyone and probably more based on his last fight.
          Fury doesn’t really have those options against anyone but AJ. He won’t make that much for the Wilder trilogy or anyone else.
          If he really wants to cash out then AJ is the only option.
          AJ has options and time. If Fury wants to price himself out he can just wait until he retires and then make a play for the wbc strap then.

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          • _Rexy_
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            #65
            And this is why Boxing is a joke. Because the best guy in the division is rarely the A side.

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            • Oregonian
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              #66
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
              Uh? A rematch always happens when a challenger beats a champion - it's in the contract. Only time it wouldn't happen is if Wlad decided he didn't want it.

              Fury didn't immediate rematch Wilder - he fought 2 guys outside the top 20 and struggled with the 2nd one. Wilder wanted an immediate rematch...

              Do I think AJ is a bum? (I didn't say Wilder or Fury are bums) AJ is proven top 3. Wilder and Fury aren't proven top 3. Wilder has beaten 1 top-10 fighter. Fury has beaten 1 top-20 fighter! AJ has beaten 4 top-10 fighters. More than both of them put together... AJ is *FIVE YEARS BEHIND* Wilder and Fury in his career.

              Why do you keep saying undefeated??? It means nothing, unless you are fighting the top guys. And Fury has never defended a belt. You just fell for all the hype mate.
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              I cannot find my response to you asking you what you will say when Fury steps up to fight AJ and then beat him.

              Well, here we go .. what are your thoughts now? You were so vocal criticizing Fury

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #67
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                I cannot find my response to you asking you what you will say when Fury steps up to fight AJ and then beat him.

                Well, here we go .. what are your thoughts now? You were so vocal criticizing Fury

                https://apple.news/ANz4moydlR-WmdULY6l1SsQ
                I don't even remember talking to you. when did i write this? 2 years ago?? lol.

                No. of current top 10 boxers beaten by Fury = 1
                No. of current top-20 boxers beaten by Fury = 2 ?
                No. of current top- 10 boxers beaten by AJ = 4

                My thoughts are still the same until Fury steps up his game. And who cares until this AJ fight happens and is over? It's not even definite yet.

                Fury said he was definitely going to fight Dillian Whyte and pulled out when the WBC called his bluff and agreed to it. Fury said he was going to beat Wlad in the rematch until he ran away and retired on his drugs ban. Talk is cheap and Fury lies more than any other boxer. Fury said Conor McGregor was going to train him...
                Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 06-11-2020, 11:59 AM.

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                • fighttips
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                  #68
                  He's right.

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                  • Smash
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                    #69
                    khan knows his A B C's, who would have known

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                      Er. yes he is still top-3. You think Ruiz is top-3 ahead of AJ then?

                      If Fury had fought a few people in the top-10 rather than just one in the top-20 - he would be proven no.1 when he beat Wilder. How can he be proven no.1 when he beat one guy in the top-20. And the guy he beat (Wilder) - his best win was against a 40yr old who was ranked no.6 at the time. Fury is no.1 only because of how the ratings system works. If a random bum had beaten Wilder he would also be no.1 in the same way - but doesn't mean he's the best in the division

                      I don't get your rematch point - I was talking about their first fight. Wilder WANTED to rematch Fury immediately but Fury turned him down. He can't make Fury fight him.

                      Also why do Wilder and AJ have lots more title defences on their record than Fury? Fury has zero so far.
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                      Nope, it was not two years ago. It was exactly a month ago.
                      Fury-Wilder rematch was not two years ago, it was less than 6 months ago.

                      My question is not under the pretext of probabilities.

                      The link I sent you is about Fury and AJ coming to an agreement on a super fight once Fury destroys the hype Job that is Wilder for the third time.
                      It seems to be a done deal. So, once again, when (or in your case, you can say “if”), Fury beats AJ, are you going to hold the same sentiments about him?? It’s a really simple question.

                      You’ve knocked on Fury every which way by saying he hasn’t fought a single top 10 guy except for Wilder. Well, he beat Wilder twice and will beat him again. Next is AJ. What then will your opinion be?

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