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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #61
    Originally posted by strykr619
    LOL you worship a known Cheater... Stop already.
    Canelo has never been caught with a banned substance 77 days away from a fight nor did he fail any post fight blood and urine collection. Emperor Canelo knows best!

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #62
      Originally posted by Real King Kong
      There were several articles reporting their fight night weights. Do you think it’s possible boxrec got the numbers reversed, or does boxrec have their own scale lol.

      Canelo has been reported to weight 170+ on several occasions at 154 and caneloweight...his team even responded to it stating the weights aren’t accurate. The truth is, those weights don’t mean all that much anyway because it’s unofficial and fighters often get on the scale fully clothed.

      All your conspiracy against canelo bs still didn’t address why that diva made his own weight class instead of moving to the next division if the weight cut became too difficult.
      Lol. “Conspiracy.”

      In that case Canelo was wearing thug life baggy pants and Timberland boots on the scale and Ángulo was literally naked. Canelo was 166 at 3pm.... LMAO... draining to not go above 168 since the morning weigh in... to then chug down 4lbs of water and more meals to hit 174lb in the ring.... that smalle ass Canelo in the ring compared to his physique against Jacobs or Fielding... yeah man... “reported” is always practical. Box1ngnews24 is/was on crack

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        #63
        Canelo was 172 against Trout. It's not a stretch to think he might weigh more as he gets older, despite us not knowing his fight night weights anymore.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #64
          Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
          Lol. “Conspiracy.”

          In that case Canelo was wearing thug life baggy pants and Timberland boots on the scale and Ángulo was literally naked. Canelo was 166 at 3pm.... LMAO... draining to not go above 168 since the morning weigh in... to then chug down 4lbs of water and more meals to hit 174lb in the ring.... that smalle ass Canelo in the ring compared to his physique against Jacobs or Fielding... yeah man... “reported” is always practical. Box1ngnews24 is/was on crack
          Why are you stuck on canelo vs angulo anyway? 155lb weight class doe...

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            #65
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            Why are you stuck on canelo vs angulo anyway? 155lb weight class doe...
            How is it a weight class? Look at the timeline of these fights from your cliche Caneloweight opponents whom fought above 155+ before Canelo “invented” it. Monkey see monkey do. Kirklandweight, Laraweight, Anguloweight. Forum culture describing “Caneloweight” would eventually become ******.

            LARA's 155+ fights...

            158 - Lara vs Maslov
            154.5 - Lara vs Gross
            155 - Lara vs Gray
            155 - Lara vs Boone
            155 - Lara vs Varela
            155.5 - Lara vs Perez
            156.5 - Lara vs Correa
            155 - Lara vs Perez
            156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
            154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
            155 - Lara vs Alvarez


            KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

            163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
            159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
            155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
            155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
            155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
            154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
            157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
            156 - Kirkland vs Vera
            162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
            163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
            158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
            160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
            157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
            155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
            155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

            ANGULO's 155+ fights...

            156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
            157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
            158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
            157 - Angulo vs Mada
            156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
            155 - Angulo vs Rosado
            154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
            154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
            162 - Angulo vs Rosa
            162 - Angulo vs Raines
            163 - Angulo vs Munoz
            164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

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              #66
              Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
              TMT and Haymon were shady from the get go. Floyd wasn’t even sure he could agree to revised contract. He was supposed to turn in the renegotiated agreement on time as Schaefer did for Marquez. TMT submitted the contracted to the commission right before the weigh in. For a guy whom boasts about being the “Money Man” he was spooked he wouldn’t even make 146 and lose money. These antics just moments away from the scale proves Floyd has been semi draining for 147 if he couldn’t commit to 144 and being the “Messiah” gym rat. Couldn’t even shave off 2lbs of water for 144. Doesn’t it prove why he did those 2lbs for Canelo?
              Business is business. Y’all got to really start checking yourselves with these biases. Haymon does good business and y’all need to get off his d1ck and stop being whiny haters.

              If you’re not going to hold Marquez trying to negotiate a catch weight with Floyd in the 1st place then you shouldn’t be mad at how floyd chose to deal with it. I don’t know why he didn’t want to make 44 and you don’t either you’re just speculating. The fight should’ve been at welter no catch weight anyway.

              As far as canelo, that’s on him. He went into negotiations like an idiot and caved on a catch weight when he didn’t have to. He could’ve stood firm on there being no catch weight and still got the fight but he buckled and got out maneuvered. He could’ve did like may and paid the penalty but he didn’t. Even still, I can’t put stock in him being “drained” because he still came into the ring with 20lb and 13 year age advantage.

              Y’all really don’t even realize how biased against certain people you are. It’s never ending.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                How is it a weight class? Look at the timeline of these fights from your cliche Caneloweight opponents whom fought above 155+ before Canelo “invented” it. Monkey see monkey do. Kirklandweight, Laraweight, Anguloweight. Forum culture describing “Caneloweight” would eventually become ******.

                LARA's 155+ fights...

                158 - Lara vs Maslov
                154.5 - Lara vs Gross
                155 - Lara vs Gray
                155 - Lara vs Boone
                155 - Lara vs Varela
                155.5 - Lara vs Perez
                156.5 - Lara vs Correa
                155 - Lara vs Perez
                156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
                154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
                155 - Lara vs Alvarez


                KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

                163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
                159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
                155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
                155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
                155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
                154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
                157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
                156 - Kirkland vs Vera
                162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
                163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
                158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
                160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
                157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
                155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
                155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

                ANGULO's 155+ fights...

                156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
                157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
                158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
                157 - Angulo vs Mada
                156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
                155 - Angulo vs Rosado
                154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
                154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
                162 - Angulo vs Rosa
                162 - Angulo vs Raines
                163 - Angulo vs Munoz
                164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez
                I think what people mostly get upset about with Canelo fighting at 155 was that he was fighting for titles at that weight. There was only 3 so it's not a a huge number but even with all these fights happening at 155, Angulo, Kirkland and Lara all made 154 when fighting for a title, as far as I know.

                Edit: actually forgot Liam Smith fight was at 154. The Cotto fight was more so to do with Miguel so I'll let that slide. No excuse for the Khan one though.
                Last edited by AKAcronym; 05-06-2020, 09:29 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AKAcronym
                  I think what people mostly get upset about with Canelo fighting at 155 was that he was fighting for titles at that weight.
                  Well at least you understand the confusion, and I’ll say again, hopefully you’d agree, that people get confused with “Caneloweight.”

                  In fact, “Caneloweight” was coined even before the Cotto fight. Canelo was B side against Cotto and Cotto demanded 155. Canelo fans don’t brag about Khan. In fact I wish most of Canelo’s highlights didn’t involve Khan tbh. I just don’t like Khan’s character more than his boxing, and Khan did survive Chino, Peterson, and Collazo whom were all hard punchers.

                  This is why Caneloweight doesn’t make any sense when Lara, Kirkland and Ángulo had a significant number of fights above 155+ before Canelo even fought at 155 with Ángulo. People forget Canelo couldn’t make 154 for the Ángulo fight so they had to resort to a 1lb

                  You are even confused about drain comfort. I just showed all the fight that Lara, Angulo and Kirkland had above 155. Why are you saying those guys fought at 154 for titles as if Canelo didn’t? Lol. You realize all those guys would prefer 155 over 154, and they were exhibition fights.
                  Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 05-06-2020, 09:37 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                    Well at least you understand the confusion, and I’ll say again, hopefully you’d agree, that people get confused with “Caneloweight.”

                    In fact, “Caneloweight” was coined even before the Cotto fight. Canelo was B side against Cotto and Cotto demanded 155. Canelo fans don’t brag about Khan. In fact I wish most of Canelo’s highlights didn’t involve Khan tbh. I just don’t like Khan’s character more than his boxing, and Khan did survive Chino, Peterson, and Collazo whom were all hard punchers.

                    This is why Caneloweight doesn’t make any sense when Lara, Kirkland and Ángulo had a significant number of fights above 155+ before Canelo even fought at 155 with Ángulo. People forget Canelo couldn’t make 154 for the Ángulo fight so they had to resort to a 1lb

                    You are even confused about drain comfort. I just showed all the fight that Lara, Angulo and Kirkland had above 155. Why are you saying those guys fought at 154 for titles as if Canelo didn’t? Lol. You realize all those guys wouldnt prefer 155 over 154, and they were exhibition fights.
                    Canelo did, but he also has some that weren't, as we talked about. Just a technicality. The other guys, as far as I'm aware, fought all their title fights at 154. It's really making a mountain out of a mole hill. This **** was years ago.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                      How is it a weight class? Look at the timeline of these fights from your cliche Caneloweight opponents whom fought above 155+ before Canelo “invented” it. Monkey see monkey do. Kirklandweight, Laraweight, Anguloweight. Forum culture describing “Caneloweight” would eventually become ******.

                      LARA's 155+ fights...

                      158 - Lara vs Maslov
                      154.5 - Lara vs Gross
                      155 - Lara vs Gray
                      155 - Lara vs Boone
                      155 - Lara vs Varela
                      155.5 - Lara vs Perez
                      156.5 - Lara vs Correa
                      155 - Lara vs Perez
                      156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
                      154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
                      155 - Lara vs Alvarez


                      KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

                      163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
                      159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
                      155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
                      155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
                      155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
                      154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
                      157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
                      156 - Kirkland vs Vera
                      162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
                      163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
                      158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
                      160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
                      157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
                      155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
                      155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

                      ANGULO's 155+ fights...

                      156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
                      157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
                      158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
                      157 - Angulo vs Mada
                      156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
                      155 - Angulo vs Rosado
                      154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
                      154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
                      162 - Angulo vs Rosa
                      162 - Angulo vs Raines
                      163 - Angulo vs Munoz
                      164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez
                      Still lame no matter how many fighters do it. Also post links to the contractual weights for all those fights.

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